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quovadis

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Except I'm arguing for using both. You on the other hand believe you choose one or the other. Like I said have fun convincing Takealot to only market to their existing customers via email.
No. Your entire argument centered around remarketing and not retargeting. Words matter.
 

Vorastra

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Inb4 but call to action.
Yes. That's literally telling someone to go kill people.
 

Gyre

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What did the words then do?
Or did people go and do something?

That's the issue with you people.

Watch this.

I hate @Cheer

Did you die?

Words are powerful enough to change feelings, and feelings are powerful enough to lead to actions. We communicate, share ideas and goals. How else do people get together to burn shops and attack buildings?

In the same way if I impersonate you, how do you get hurt? It's just words on a screen?
 

Vorastra

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Words are powerful enough to change feelings, and feelings are powerful enough to lead to actions. We communicate, share ideas and goals. How else do people get together to burn shops and attack buildings?

In the same way if I impersonate you, how do you get hurt? It's just words on a screen?
But it's only when you literally tell people to kill others right there and then, do words actually become actions.

You damage me by making others think that it's me.

Ideas and goals are not direct calls to action.
 

Gyre

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But it's only when you literally tell people to kill others right there and then, do words actually become actions.

You damage me by making others think that it's me.

You don't need to outright tell somebody to kill somebody else, you just have to dehumanize another group that people wouldn't feel bad for hurting them. No Nazi propaganda deliberately said "kill jews" - it just painted them as the enemy constantly and made it easy for people to not feel sympathy for them.

You can damage others by spreading lies about them too - if people are expected to be intelligent enough to filter through false and true claims, they should be smart enough to check if you're the real poster or not?
 

Ponderer

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Because they're mistaking impersonation for free-speech, in the same way people mistake hate-speech for free-speech.

In both instances, a side will think that by using words, they're not actually hurting anybody.
It's ironic that it is overwhelmingly the 'tards that are unable to distinguish between hate speech and free speech.
The 'tards label any speech they hate as hate speech.
Stupid 'tards.
 

Gyre

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It's ironic that it is overwhelmingly the 'tards that are unable to distinguish between hate speech and free speech.
The 'tards label any speech they hate as hate speech.
Stupid 'tards.

I think it's generally a person problem, there are different groups having different outlooks on an issue but generally people enjoy belittling their opponents.
 

Vorastra

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You don't need to outright tell somebody to kill somebody else, you just have to dehumanize another group that people wouldn't feel bad for hurting them. No Nazi propaganda deliberately said "kill jews" - it just painted them as the enemy constantly and made it easy for people to not feel sympathy for them.

You can damage others by spreading lies about them too - if people are expected to be intelligent enough to filter through false and true claims, they should be smart enough to check if you're the real poster or not?
So if enough people on this forum all say we hate you. We should go to jail.

Yes you can damage others, hence why it's called...libel.
 

greg0205

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This...

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Also, this...

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But mainly a crowdsourcing LOL!

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Spoiler alert: There isn't.

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Gnarls

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No. Your entire argument centered around remarketing and not retargeting. Words matter.

No this was you stupid argument. I said use both. We see you using semantics to dig yourself out of your own hole.

So you'd rather pay facebook for a generic advert that may or may not reach your customer than reaching out directly via your own website, newsletter, personal email, sales call?

This is you arguing that you should only reach out directly to your own customer rather than use ads. Words matter
 
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