Musk says Twitter is trending towards breakeven

No question Twitter will survive, eventually. It's child's play compared to SpaceX and Tesla. Musk is a master marketer. Mainstream media believes he tweets off the cuff while he knows exactly what message to convey.
 
No question Twitter will survive, eventually. It's child's play compared to SpaceX and Tesla. Musk is a master marketer. Mainstream media believes he tweets off the cuff while he knows exactly what message to convey.
It's far from child's play, you're talking about a company that at times burns a billion dollars a year to keep afloat.

Just the interest payments on the loan are more than Twitter has made in profit ever, he bought it at way over value.

Right now he's trying to monetize anything he can without thinking any of it through, see blue check verification, this api monetization will fall flat as well.

SpaceX and Tesla are easier, and technically SpaceX is, according to Musk, at the risk of bankruptcy. He's been (at least borderline) committing fraud with starlink in Ukraine, attempting to double dip US tax payer.

Tesla is also going to be interesting, since right now they're ahead as market dominance, but other entrants are only now entering the field, so will see how long that lasts.

It seems it's more of a case of these companies being successful in spite of him.
 
No question Twitter will survive, eventually. It's child's play compared to SpaceX and Tesla. Musk is a master marketer. Mainstream media believes he tweets off the cuff while he knows exactly what message to convey.
Which mainstream media? Twitter? Fox News? InfoWars?
 
You spewing the same nonsense as all the online haters. Anyway, revisit your comments in 24 months. Oh, one doesn't commit borderline fraud, it's either fraud or not.
Just like there is no being near or far from the border of a country.
 
It's far from child's play, you're talking about a company that at times burns a billion dollars a year to keep afloat.

Just the interest payments on the loan are more than Twitter has made in profit ever, he bought it at way over value.
Agree - overpaid.

Right now he's trying to monetize anything he can without thinking any of it through, see blue check verification, this api monetization will fall flat as well.
In terms of the API, this is a good thing as the API was being abused by paid 3rd party apps which blocked Twitter adverts - a vital source of revenue for Twitter.
Most social media apps don't allow paid for 3rd party apps to kill revenue.

SpaceX and Tesla are easier, and technically SpaceX is, according to Musk, at the risk of bankruptcy. He's been (at least borderline) committing fraud with starlink in Ukraine, attempting to double dip US tax payer.
SpaceX and Tesla easier? Where's your evidence?
Mastadon is a twitter competitor - here is the code https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon - not very complex.
Code to land a rocket, launch astronauts or driver a car is much more complex & more sophisticated than Twitter/Mastadon.

"He's been (at least borderline) committing fraud" - no such thing. It's either fraud or isn't.
There no evidence of fraud.

Tesla is also going to be interesting, since right now they're ahead as market dominance, but other entrants are only now entering the field, so will see how long that lasts.

It seems it's more of a case of these companies being successful in spite of him.
Ford CEO Jim Farley talked to CNN about Mustang Mach-E and the F-150 Lightning on CNN 4th Feb 2023:
"Ford showed this week that it’s not going to be as easy for traditional automakers to catch Tesla in the race to build the better electric vehicle, despite what Tesla’s doubters think."
But you know better than the CEO of Ford.

It's been a few months since the Twitter takeover.
Many (like you) said it would fail and be offline - especially after retrenching 70% of the staff and losing advertisers.

Based on user counts, revenue, engagement minutes, Twitter instead of failing is doing better than ever.
 
Still don't understand why even buy it? Tesla and SpaceX still have more than enough issues to get through - so saying that it was difficult to run all 3 and therefore Twitter was tough seems a little self-inflicted considering he chose to buy it...
 
Highly doubtful, still ongoing cases of not paying rent, employee severance, etc.

The company is now private, so he's probably going to hide if anything is going wrong until it crashes, he needs to look good for his other companies as well.
Of course yes. Fortunately there are some geniuses on the internet who have spent many years predicting Musks imminent downfall and they can see though all Musks lies.

The walls are closing in.
 
Still don't understand why even buy it? Tesla and SpaceX still have more than enough issues to get through - so saying that it was difficult to run all 3 and therefore Twitter was tough seems a little self-inflicted considering he chose to buy it...
Twitter have so much data available which the can use for IA. I think this is part of his motivation.

As they say, the person who control the robots will control the world.
 
You spewing the same nonsense as all the online haters. Anyway, revisit your comments in 24 months. Oh, one doesn't commit borderline fraud, it's either fraud or not.
I'm saying borderline because it's still being investigated, and something can be borderline when it should be but rule doesn't exist yet.

And "haters", just check the financials vs what paid, it's basic accounting, of course must be a hater pointing it out.
In terms of the API, this is a good thing as the API was being abused by paid 3rd party apps which blocked Twitter adverts - a vital source of revenue for Twitter.
Most social media apps don't allow paid for 3rd party apps to kill revenue.
"Abused" when they fixed a lot of functionality of Twitter and is what made it popular in the first place.
The pricing is also insane.
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And any "normal" company would have a grace period, to give those apps time to implement a charge per request, and cost should be something similar to what Twitter makes per add shown on average per request.
Reddit for non-commercial has a free API: https://www.reddit.com/wiki/api/ btw. , also highly doubtful they charge 4-30c/request, also only 30 days.
But of course, must be a hater. Basic read: https://www.grid.news/story/technol...s-killing-the-things-that-made-twitter-great/

Also, what stops me from using a scraping bot now? Enjoy the wasted resources.

SpaceX and Tesla easier? Where's your evidence?
Based on those companies already being set up for profitability in terms of good board, employees, etc. already working/close to product that is profitable, also physical product.
Starlink borderline fraud: https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-spacex-ukraine-starlink-government-funding
Among other things.
Mastadon is a twitter competitor - here is the code https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon - not very complex.
Code to land a rocket, launch astronauts or driver a car is much more complex & more sophisticated than Twitter/Mastadon.

"He's been (at least borderline) committing fraud" - no such thing. It's either fraud or isn't.
There no evidence of fraud.
I didn't say Mastadon was a success, I never said Twitter is a success.
Check up on Tesla cybertruck promises, Tesla last person to sell stock, I linked you the starlink claiming donation when it wasn't, etc., he lies a lot to stockholders.
All of those should be lawsuits imho.
Ford CEO Jim Farley talked to CNN about Mustang Mach-E and the F-150 Lightning on CNN 4th Feb 2023:
"Ford showed this week that it’s not going to be as easy for traditional automakers to catch Tesla in the race to build the better electric vehicle, despite what Tesla’s doubters think."
But you know better than the CEO of Ford.
Maybe not quote only the headline clickbait?

Farley said these and other cost problems meant that Ford “left about $2 billion of profit on the table.”

It’s a sign that those who predicted that Tesla would soon lose its advantage due to increased competition in EV offerings from the established automakers were getting ahead of themselves.
Note that soon, I said other entrants are entering the market, will see how long being ahead lasts, I never said they weren't/aren't ahead right now and won't be for the next 2/3 years, we'll see what happens in 5 years or so.
Again, you're stating stuff I never said.
It's been a few months since the Twitter takeover.
Many (like you) said it would fail and be offline - especially after retrenching 70% of the staff and losing advertisers.
But I didn't say it would immediately be offline? I highly doubt he'll take it offline, loans would come due immediately.
Fourteen of the top 30 advertisers on Twitter stopped all advertising on the platform after Musk took charge on October 27, according to the Pathmatics estimates. Four advertisers reduced spending between 92% and 98.7% from the week before Musk's acquisition through the end of the year.

Overall, advertising spending by the top 30 companies fell by 42% to an estimated $53.8 million for November and December combined, according to Pathmatics, despite an increase in spending by six of them.
So question is how long until he runs out of other's people money, or if keeps selling other stock to make up for it, and when those stocks also crash.
 
It's far from child's play, you're talking about a company that at times burns a billion dollars a year to keep afloat.
The key thing though is that most of the debt in buying Twitter isn't Musk's own money. It's a typical other people's money scenario. If this thing crashes and burns Musk will lose some money, but far less than the amount he spent buying Twitter.

Still don't understand why even buy it? Tesla and SpaceX still have more than enough issues to get through - so saying that it was difficult to run all 3 and therefore Twitter was tough seems a little self-inflicted considering he chose to buy it...
He did try to back out. For obvious reasons the major stockholders wanted to hold him to it.
 
Ford CEO Jim Farley talked to CNN about Mustang Mach-E and the F-150 Lightning on CNN 4th Feb 2023:
"Ford showed this week that it’s not going to be as easy for traditional automakers to catch Tesla in the race to build the better electric vehicle, despite what Tesla’s doubters think."
But you know better than the CEO of Ford.
He also said Ford have problems just building functional internal combustion engine cars. But no-one claimed catching up in the electric vehicle market would be easy. However the likelihood is that competitors will catch up.

It's been a few months since the Twitter takeover.
Many (like you) said it would fail and be offline - especially after retrenching 70% of the staff and losing advertisers.
Company deaths usually take quite some time.
 
This is going to piss off a lot of lefties/democrats/MSM guzzlers/ignorants.
 
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