MWEB peering changes begin - fallout imminent

burn

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Would be great to have a sticky or something updating us on who has peered and who has not.
 

Shayd

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As of today the South African internet is officially split in 2. The 2 will talk only over international links.

On the one side you have the forward thinking, aggressive,free and open peering guys and on the other side the dirty, money grubbing, backwards thinking, scum of the South African ISP community that have made local hosting bloody expensive.

Anybody wanna take bets on who this forums members are going to overwhelmingly support?

I will happily swap a couple of months of higher latency for lower hosting prices and more local content.
 
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lordnokon

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good work Mweb, I would like to see what the other big boys are going to say about this.
 

stm101

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It has always been more expensive to host locally for one reason only... The cost of bandwidth. With open peering happening this will change. Viva MWEB, well done
 

The Trutherizer

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If Telkom does not understand MWeb and it's success I will explain:

Intelligent business... +1
Honest business.. +10
Consumer centric business... +100
Intelligent honest consumer centric business with balls... +10000!

Go MWeb! I hope you make a ton of money! You deserve it.
 

DominionZA

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MWEB FTW!!!

I don't think I have ever monitored MyBB so much in my life :) Cannot wait to see what comes out of this. Lets see if the money greedy corporates out there can swallow a bit of humble pie, suck it up, and PEER.
 

Hellboy

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As an advocate for peering for many years I salute Mweb for taking off the gloves and showing them, brand new awesome peering links coming up and the cost of local bandwidth will finally allow the goverment to bring the E-natis system back :p
 

Mach III

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will this reduce the prices of adsl at all? (once everyone has peered)
 

Shayd

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will this reduce the prices of adsl at all? (once everyone has peered)

It's not really about bringing down the price of our ADSL accounts, while it will have that effect it won't be immediate. It's more about bringing local hosting into the 21st century. ALL of the bulk services sit offshore because our local BW is so expensive.
 

Mach III

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Oh, so it's like for south africans to make a website they pay out big time?
 

TheGuy

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Check this:

Pinging www.vodacom.co.za [41.1.224.101] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 41.1.224.101: bytes=32 time=365ms TTL=112
Reply from 41.1.224.101: bytes=32 time=458ms TTL=112
Reply from 41.1.224.101: bytes=32 time=266ms TTL=112
Reply from 41.1.224.101: bytes=32 time=258ms TTL=112

Ping statistics for 41.1.224.101:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 258ms, Maximum = 458ms, Average = 336ms
 

JasonH

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Traceroute to a server @ MTN Business (same DC as MyBB).. traffic is going over SAIX but it's just getting dropped :/

Tracing route to jupiter.za-dns.com [41.203.22.77]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 22 ms 16 ms 16 ms 41-133-88-1.dsl.mweb.co.za [41.133.88.1]
3 17 ms 68 ms 77 ms tengig-0-0-0-104.vic-ipc-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.16
9.146]
4 17 ms 17 ms 18 ms vl-92.vic-hscore-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.189.2]
5 20 ms 34 ms 72 ms tengig-0-0-0-0-11.vic-up-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.16
9.225]
6 50 ms 97 ms 140 ms rrba-ip-hsll-1-wan.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.8.
249]
7 114 ms 44 ms 76 ms 196.43.11.202
8 144 ms 54 ms 94 ms 196.43.25.138
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
 
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