My 500Gb Seagate Drive also just died

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I still say a UPS is a better bet ...VR stabilizes power, but doesn't keep the power up.
 

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You guys don't think perhaps the drive just got a bit too hot? Had that with my first Seagate SATA drive which was untouchable after 5 minutes of running. It just stopped dead. Thermometer said 70C+. :p

If that Seagate is making a spin-click-spin sound then it is more than likely not getting enough power. Recently returned a Seagate 500GB portable drive which did that. Last year I went and bought Western Digitals to replace a pair of Seagates that was doing that in my PC, only to realise it was the PSU not giving enough power to the drives. Replaced the Antec PSU with a AOpen and the drives have been working fine (until Eskom recently send out a power ripple of the "kill that oke's PSU" variety). So it could be the power supply is just not making enough.

Two months left on the warranty on that Antec I had, so was gonna have it replace. Put it on the PC room floor, and came back to a dog eating the cables. :p
 

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I did wonder about the heat, maybe if and when I get it back I should run it with the side of the Mvix case open and a fan blowing on it?

But are they not designed to run at high heat?
 

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Define "high heat"? I ran the old Seagate in an old chassis with no sides on it and the thing overheated quickly. Had to glue a small fan in front of it.

On another note... I've been so scared to go out an buy a massive drive (750GB+). Been living with smaller drives instead after thinking whether I'd want to lose 750GB in one go or just a fraction of it. :)
 

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Sorry to hear mate, i always thought Seagate were pretty good, *are* drives.

On a liter note, my gf's portable, a bulky 180 gig Western Digital drive, fell of the ROOF OF A VEHICLE MOVING AT HIGH SPEED. after we cleared the dust, sand and sticks from it, it worked.....
 

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Define "high heat"? I ran the old Seagate in an old chassis with no sides on it and the thing overheated quickly. Had to glue a small fan in front of it.

On another note... I've been so scared to go out an buy a massive drive (750GB+). Been living with smaller drives instead after thinking whether I'd want to lose 750GB in one go or just a fraction of it. :)

It was very hot, but not so hot that you could not touch it. Just very warm to the touch. Not as hot as your car engine gets.

I knew the fan on the MVix was still working cos I heard it running the whole time.

I also wonder if having such huge drives is a good idea. But what alternative is there?

I go through DVDs at an alarming rate trying to back everything up and I have three of those huge CD cases just to keep all my backups in.

I could not fit enough smaller drives into my system to equal the four drives I have right now totalling 2 Terabytes.

Roll on with the Holographic storage!!! :) I need it bad!
 

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It was very hot, but not so hot that you could not touch it. Just very warm to the touch. Not as hot as your car engine gets.

I knew the fan on the MVix was still working cos I heard it running the whole time.

I also wonder if having such huge drives is a good idea. But what alternative is there?

I go through DVDs at an alarming rate trying to back everything up and I have three of those huge CD cases just to keep all my backups in.

I could not fit enough smaller drives into my system to equal the four drives I have right now totalling 2 Terabytes.

Roll on with the Holographic storage!!! :) I need it bad!

My old desktop's hdd also gets touch-hot, but that is still within its limits. If you cannot hold it at all, then you might have a problem. But you can never have too much cooling... (the more the better)
 

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My old desktop's hdd also gets touch-hot, but that is still within its limits. If you cannot hold it at all, then you might have a problem. But you can never have too much cooling... (the more the better)

My Desktop PC Processor is running at 12 degrees, the hard drives are very well cooled. I thought it was a mistake until I put a thermometer on it. It really is running at 12 degrees.

It is just the MVix Case that gets hot, cos 500 Gb is probably the max you can put in there... it is an IDE case.
 

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My Desktop PC Processor is running at 12 degrees, the hard drives are very well cooled. I thought it was a mistake until I put a thermometer on it. It really is running at 12 degrees.

It is just the MVix Case that gets hot, cos 500 Gb is probably the max you can put in there... it is an IDE case.

Whoa! Hectic! Isn't that below the minimum recommended running temperature even? :p
 

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Whoa! Hectic! Isn't that below the minimum recommended running temperature even? :p

No, it isn't. There isn't a theoretical minimum cooling temperature. Just make sure it stays above the dew point inside the room, otherwise you might end up with frost inside your pc :) (no, really, however this is very unlikely).
 

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The phase of the electricity shouldn't have anything to do with this. Electricity is generated and "transported" in three-phase form. When it reaches the premises, you receive a single phase, i.e. 3-phase on the power lines you see in the street, then one house gets phase A, next-door gets phase B, house after that gets phase C. So the power within a single house is usually only single-phase (except in rare circumstances, like in factories where they use all 3 phases). The reason for 3-phase power generation? It's way more economical to generate and distribute power like this. Also, it is distributed as high-voltage, low(ish)-current. When it reaches your premises, it is stepped down to low(ish)-voltage, high(er)-current.

Anyway, I'm rambling on...

But I do think that you are correct about isolated incidents not meaning the electricity is ok.

I am pretty sure most households get 3-phase electricity.. if you want, and have an 'old' electricity box you should see three breakers at the bottom of the meter, one for each phase. Also, if one phase goes down, it will result your stove/oven not working properly(again most are 3-phase, those big chunky ones defy :p) and depending on how the power is split in your place, sections of teh house not working.

When there is powercuts i we pull out the plugs or atleast turn off the switches of appliances we don't want to blow ;) like pc's etc as there is sometimes surges when power is restored.
 

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It really is running at 12 degrees.

It's not possible for a CPU to run below room temperature if it's not water cooled.... Actually, an air-cooled CPU will always run hotter than the temperature of the surrounding air, as ALL CPU's are little mini heaters..

So either you're lying, or your thermometer and motherboard is lying, or your PC is outside, or finally : You might be living on the North pole.
Did you take this measurement when the air in your PC room was like colder than 8degrees or something?

Whatever one it is : I'm glad I'm not in your room. :D
 
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Maybe he does have watercooling. Or maybe liquid nitrogen cooling (possible but very expensive)
 

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Maybe he does have watercooling. Or maybe liquid nitrogen cooling (possible but very expensive)

Haha, in the CRAPPY case he says it's in? no ways! :)

No sane person would put a Ferrari angine into a Uno :)
 

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Haha, in the CRAPPY case he says it's in? no ways! :)

No sane person would put a Ferrari angine into a Uno :)

I don't recall Garyvdh saying anything about a crappy case!?!

My Desktop PC Processor is running at 12 degrees, the hard drives are very well cooled. I thought it was a mistake until I put a thermometer on it. It really is running at 12 degrees.

It is just the MVix Case that gets hot, cos 500 Gb is probably the max you can put in there... it is an IDE case.
 
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