My terrible dreadful RAIN 5G "Premium" connection and experience

NR7

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Writing this on my laptop via my phone's mobile hotspot because my RAIN 5G "Premium" cannot even load a webpage.

Main issue is no 5G for hours and then 4G fallover which is almost non-existent. Sometimes it's fine for an hour or two at good speed (150-200 Mbps) but the problem NEVER disappears, it is daily occurrence.

Some days worse, some slightly better. Restarts don't help, nor does moving the router. I have had this issue since 31 March.

This is my speed this afternoon. I actually had to run the test a few times as the upload test kept giving me an error.

RAIN 5G Speedtest 3.42pm on 22 April 2020.JPG

Router stats if anyone's interested
RAIN 5G Router Stats 22 April.JPG

TL;DR 23 days and all that's happened is a remote signal/speed test, router software rollback and various escalations (to network team, then to engineers and management), I still have to keep emailing for feedback and there is no resolution in sight.

@rain_mobile
I have UNISA online exams coming up in a few weeks and there's no way I can depend on this connection for anything.

I am being charged R1000 to have your 5G "Premium" run at 0.345% of it's "Up to 200mbps" speed when 3 months ago I was easily reaching 400+ Mbps.

How is it acceptable to take 23 days and the only work done besides escalation are things as simple as a remote login to check the stats/speed and upload a new software remotely ?

I've never received any emails or phone calls from the "network team", "engineers" or the "management", all the communication I have received has been done by the customer support guy from my original chat (and one courtesy call from someone else on the day I logged the reference via chat telling me that they are working on it).



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So if you want to read the details, this has been my whole customer experience so far :
31 March :
After an hour and 19 minutes of waiting in the queue, I reported the issue via Rain's online chat, also provided my acc details to rain_mobile rep on myBB via PM when it was requested from me.

2 April :
I was told network team checked the signal/speed and that it was fine. I was asked if it is working fine now.

3 April :
I replied that it was still a problem and sent screenshots.

6 April :
I couldn't find the chat link, so I sent them an email to enquire what the status of this reference is. Automatically received a second reference and was told I would get feedback i"within 24-48 hours".

Later that day I found the chat link in the Contact Us section since the Get In Touch link by the chat bot was not available anymore.
After 35 minutes they said they updated my escalation and are awaiting feedback from their network team

7 April the network team did a remote firmware update which rolled back the software version of the router and asked me to monitor it. I replied that there was still a problem.

11 April I emailed to ask what is happening with this issue that is persisting and attached screenshots. No reply.

14 April I emailed again to ask what is happening and attached screenshots.

15 April I receive an email that they will request for urgent feedback on the matter and revert back to me.

16 April I receive an email that it has been further escalated to their engineers and they are currently awaiting their feedback.
They have requested management to intervene in order to get your problem resolved
Posted about it on the forum and rain_mobile said they are following up to get me feedback as soon as they can

Later on 16 April :
I also receive an email from another customer support person.
The support request I sent on the Rain site on 6 April that they would get back to me "within 24-48 hours" actually took 10 days to reach someone, and they merged it into the existing reference.

21 April : I emailed requesting an update on this issue from their engineers and management as it feels like nothing is happening.
22 April : Still no feedback since 16 April, still have the issue for the last 23 days, and now online chat is removed from their site.
 

NR7

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Put the router on the roof.

Router is by a window but has clear line of sight with the tower through a gap in the trees.
The tower itself is about 500m away, but there are no houses/buildings in the way as we are on a slight hill

What makes me believe that line of sight/signal strength isn't an issue, is because when the 5G decides to return and reconnect after it's been stuck on 0.69 - 1 Mbps fallover for ages, the router stats for 5G show around -78dBm to -80dBm (some people don't even get -78dBm with it on their roof) which is quite good and I can sometimes have a solid 200mbps for hours before the problem returns.

At one stage I ran a speed test, got a 1Mbps result, and then literally 10 seconds later I retested and got 200Mbps and it was solid for half an hour. If it was a signal problem I would get worse and worse signal over time (like -78, then -84, then -90 then -92 then no connection) but it doesn't happen like that, it goes from -78dBm to Unknown and then back within a matter of seconds sometimes.

And given the crime in the area and the fact that the lightning loves striking my house, I doubt the router would survive very long on the roof if I did move it there.
 

Kiemo

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Damn sounds Like you need a rain technician over at your place bro ask rain for help
 

NR7

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This morning : 0.81Mbps DL, Ping 397ms
RAIN 5G Speedtest 23 April.PNG

This afternoon before it inevitably goes down again : 349.2Mbps DL, Ping 24ms on 5GHz WIFI
RAIN 5G Speedtest 23 April Afternoon.PNG

If router placement was really the issue, I would never get 349.2Mbps on Wifi.
If I went and connected my laptop via an ethernet cable it would probably be 400+ Mbps too.

Some major weirdness on my local Rain 5G infrastructure, 5G tower, or maybe even my router.
 

name_less

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Hey Nyt Ryda,

Try this, hopefully it will help.

I had the same problem with random internet drops and massive spikes. What fixed it for me was going into antenna settings in "system -> antenna" and changed the 'Select Mode:' from 'Auto' to 'Fixed' and apply. You can change the 'Antenna Combine Index', it's the combination of antennas which can be used on the device. The arrows in red shows the antenna combination for the selected 'Antenna Combine Index', more details can be read in the user help manual (as shown below). The 'TX Antenna' is the antenna currently used, respective to the 'Antenna Combine Index'.

View attachment 823977

I notice the random drops and spikes happen when the 'Select Mode:' is in 'Auto' and the router auto selects an antenna combination which is not optimal and packets starts dropping. An incorrect 'Antenna Combine Index' will use the incorrect antenna and leave you with no/slow internet.

Hope this will help you, as this helped me and my connection is now rock solid.

Edit: The manual can be found when you log into the CPE and click on the 'help' button on the top right.
 

NR7

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Hey Nyt Ryda,

Try this, hopefully it will help.

Thanks. I went through that thread yesterday and tried a bunch of different things when there was 5G for a bit.

Went one by one through the Antenna Combine Index and found that it makes a difference on your dBm listed in the stats and thus overall speed.

Auto settings still reached decent signal but I found two settings (2 and 10) which had the dBm around -79 and used those but it still went down soon as well. Currently using the same "2" Antenna Combine Index as when I reached 350Mbps but now the 5G is down so it's only 1.27 Mbps

Also tried locking the 5G to the n78 band mentioned in the thread, but no difference really.
 

pilotwerrie

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Sorry to hear about your bad experience with @rain_mobile ...

I am having similar terrible customer service from them.

No internet for 6 days now ... also have studies to complete and working from home. It is costing me a fortune in vodacom data bundles in addition to my Rain subscription of R999.
 

Assasin_Zer0

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They also going to tell you to downgrade :) :) :) :) :) cause then they can guarantee you a 30Mbps connection. .. lol
I have the same issue , There are times it is awesome , and then it just rolls over, They say there is nothing wrong with the towers aside from when more users connect to it , The radius on the 5G side gets smaller.
Or that it has to do with your elevation to the towers .

This is the stuff i have been told , I've also connected to the tower they recommended , and that's even worse .
 

namzsteve

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I suggest maybe fixing an antenna combination index in the System settings. There is a post on the site about this, pick a combination that works with your router.

Screen Shot 2020-04-23 at 20.06.51.png
 

pilotwerrie

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Have you called Rain to ask which tower your router is latching on to?

I can see which 2 towers I latch on to ... I provided the info to them ... I even made a screen recording that I sent to them 3 days ago!

They said thanks ... that helped a lot ... and thats the last I heard from them. Now they don't even reply to my follow up emails since then.

Found a facebook post yesterday on local community group where 4 other people have exactly the same problem ...

No feedback ...

Oh yes ... they don't take calls currently during lock down, but I have asked 4 days in a row for some one to please call me ... NO RESPONSE!
 

NR7

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Update on this.
24 April, received an email that they want to send a technician to my premises. They also said they are experiencing high volumes and have a backlog so it may take some time.

Let's see what happens. My only concern is if the technician comes during the hour or two that the 5G is connected and thinks there's no issue, because it's not always on slow 4G fallover even though it feels like it some days.

Hopefully I'm lucky (unlucky ?) and on the day the 5G will have no connection and show the technician the problem that I experience.
 

ngoni615

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Writing this on my laptop via my phone's mobile hotspot because my RAIN 5G "Premium" cannot even load a webpage.

Main issue is no 5G for hours and then 4G fallover which is almost non-existent. Sometimes it's fine for an hour or two at good speed (150-200 Mbps) but the problem NEVER disappears, it is daily occurrence.

Some days worse, some slightly better. Restarts don't help, nor does moving the router. I have had this issue since 31 March.

This is my speed this afternoon. I actually had to run the test a few times as the upload test kept giving me an error.

View attachment 826995

Router stats if anyone's interested
View attachment 826997

TL;DR 23 days and all that's happened is a remote signal/speed test, router software rollback and various escalations (to network team, then to engineers and management), I still have to keep emailing for feedback and there is no resolution in sight.

@rain_mobile
I have UNISA online exams coming up in a few weeks and there's no way I can depend on this connection for anything.

I am being charged R1000 to have your 5G "Premium" run at 0.345% of it's "Up to 200mbps" speed when 3 months ago I was easily reaching 400+ Mbps.

How is it acceptable to take 23 days and the only work done besides escalation are things as simple as a remote login to check the stats/speed and upload a new software remotely ?

I've never received any emails or phone calls from the "network team", "engineers" or the "management", all the communication I have received has been done by the customer support guy from my original chat (and one courtesy call from someone else on the day I logged the reference via chat telling me that they are working on it).



.............
So if you want to read the details, this has been my whole customer experience so far :
31 March :
After an hour and 19 minutes of waiting in the queue, I reported the issue via Rain's online chat, also provided my acc details to rain_mobile rep on myBB via PM when it was requested from me.

2 April :
I was told network team checked the signal/speed and that it was fine. I was asked if it is working fine now.

3 April :
I replied that it was still a problem and sent screenshots.

6 April :
I couldn't find the chat link, so I sent them an email to enquire what the status of this reference is. Automatically received a second reference and was told I would get feedback i"within 24-48 hours".

Later that day I found the chat link in the Contact Us section since the Get In Touch link by the chat bot was not available anymore.
After 35 minutes they said they updated my escalation and are awaiting feedback from their network team

7 April the network team did a remote firmware update which rolled back the software version of the router and asked me to monitor it. I replied that there was still a problem.

11 April I emailed to ask what is happening with this issue that is persisting and attached screenshots. No reply.

14 April I emailed again to ask what is happening and attached screenshots.

15 April I receive an email that they will request for urgent feedback on the matter and revert back to me.

16 April I receive an email that it has been further escalated to their engineers and they are currently awaiting their feedback.
They have requested management to intervene in order to get your problem resolved
Posted about it on the forum and rain_mobile said they are following up to get me feedback as soon as they can

Later on 16 April :
I also receive an email from another customer support person.
The support request I sent on the Rain site on 6 April that they would get back to me "within 24-48 hours" actually took 10 days to reach someone, and they merged it into the existing reference.

21 April : I emailed requesting an update on this issue from their engineers and management as it feels like nothing is happening.
22 April : Still no feedback since 16 April, still have the issue for the last 23 days, and now online chat is removed from their site.
Have you tried turning it off and back on again?
 

NR7

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I've also discovered that restarting the router actually does make a difference - it makes it worse.

I've tested this theory last night and this morning, both times I had good 5G for an hour or so, and then I restarted the router via the menu and then the 5G signal disappears for a substantial amount of time.
This is kind of a good thing though, it means if there's 5G signal when the technician gets here I can just restart it with him there and show him the issue first-hand.
 
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