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Traq

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Okay so looking at your toon, I would start by using Q20 gems. I disagree with the reddit guys regarding using marohi over disfavour. Disfavour has built in bleeding, and +2 to support gems.

Main attack goes into disfavour, totem into 6L. Then don't evenn bother with voidheart you have bleeding already, unless you want to posion as well.

Sunder vs EQ - EQ is better but you need to be closer for initial hit. Sunder can take CONNC effect without any dowside (it does not affect your initial wave hit).

I do also agree that you wasted a lot of points by travelling bottom right. The only reason you will travel bottom/bottom right of tree is for bleeding/poison damage.

Following tree uses 114 points, and will give you more life and inncreased DoT (bleed poison):

http://poeurl.com/HUN
 

copacetic

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Holy christ, Earthquake + loads of armour is crazy.

At about 88% physical reduction with my endurance charges up, and haven't even taken the ascendancy that doubles my body armour yet. Damage seems fairly ridiculous (with Voidheart), and I'm mapping at around level 66, comfortably doing 72 maps without even having capped resists.

Ridiculous...
 

SaiyanZ

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Holy christ, Earthquake + loads of armour is crazy.

At about 88% physical reduction with my endurance charges up, and haven't even taken the ascendancy that doubles my body armour yet. Damage seems fairly ridiculous (with Voidheart), and I'm mapping at around level 66, comfortably doing 72 maps without even having capped resists.

Ridiculous...

Yeah Voidheart is quite insane and Earthquake has huge base damage. Think the ring will be nerfed eventually to 50% chance to bleed and poison so you'll have to use two rings to get the full benefit. It's just too BIS for any physical melee build.

I uninstalled POE this last weekend. I get addicted to games and online games just go on forever and ever. Will be spending my time playing offline games for a while.
 

copacetic

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I think even at 50% it's still going to be pretty damned crazy. I mean the bleed nodes on the tree only give you a couple of percent chance per node.

I did Merciless Lab this morning under-levelled by around two levels and it was a breeze.

Now I just need to find the damn trials so I can do Uber Lab at around 80.

As for addiction, yeah, I hear you. PoE is luckily the only game I play at the moment, and I run out of capacity after a while, so it's self-limiting to an extent.

In fact the only reason I'm still playing this league was my spontaneous attempt to 6 link my Carcass, which got me a bunch of money to spend on a fresh character.
 

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Holy christ, Earthquake + loads of armour is crazy.

At about 88% physical reduction with my endurance charges up, and haven't even taken the ascendancy that doubles my body armour yet. Damage seems fairly ridiculous (with Voidheart), and I'm mapping at around level 66, comfortably doing 72 maps without even having capped resists.

Ridiculous...

Dito, I haven't quite got voidheart yet. Running Kaom's way. Lots of regen. Marohi Erqi. Haven't even done cruel lab yet. level 65. Going to do cruel and merc together. All that armour and all those Endurance charges, with a basalt and Blasphemy Warlords, makes for a very hard to kill Juggernaut. Quite a tanky build for how much damage it does.
 

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You will probably find that the change to EQ has the highest impact on you not dying. Because EQ will usually stun a 360 radius around you. And also kill around you. Which means that you are not getting hit for free by monsters behind you.

The build notes mentioned by others are all valid. Just get more life is an option. But I worry that you are missing pure defensive options over life. That would increase your eHP by a lot.

Some meta points to look at.
You have well over 2k armour on your gear. But you are not scaling armour in your tree that much. Also your Armour flask needs 90% or higher "Armour during flask effect".
Your ascendancy class has only damage boosting aspects. Not much eHP in there other than quality of life stuff like stun immunity on condition.
To me, you have taken the huge damage route, on both your tree and your ascendancy class. Where is the defense?

My changes would be these:
Keep gloves as is. Those links are great, but you have no Endurance charges to scale your immortal call duration at all, and you go past all 3 bonus endurance charges in the skill tree. Pick those up.
Now seeing as EQ is both your single target and AOE skill. That frees up 6 gem slots already.
EQ goes in your 6 link with Melee Phys/Added Fire/Less duration/ And anything that scales your damage but not your attack speed. You want massive hits that hit hard. If you feel you actually need the bleeds, then stick with conc effect/ Inc AOE. If you want a more elemental damage approach, then use Phys to Lightning/WED. Depends if you one shot everything or not, which will decide whether bleeds are even useful for most of the content.

Now onto the nitty gritty stuff.
Put this link in: Leap Slam/Fortify/Faster Attacks/ (Stun) if you have the overall links for it. I like the stun and knockback joined together, they roll separately, so more chance to CC as you leap in. This puts fortify into your movement skill instead of your main attack.
Now use blasphemy-warlords mark. Hatred. as your Auras. This sorts out Endurance charge generation. It also provides Life and mana leach in droves. And increases the effects of stun on monsters. With the massive hits you do, stuns happen often. The blasphemy curse also allows you to skip any leech from the tree, which means easier pathing.
Lastly, find a free spot for Enduring Cry. This is used to start a map out with a few Charges, but also to supplement your charges on bosses that are not generous enough with adds for Warlords mark to keep them up.

All this considered, I would go for something like this on the tree:
Link

This gets you 5 jewel slots and sorts out your Int requirements without taking redundant accuracy nodes (The jewel slot in Templar area collects 20 int on the way there. Those jewels can be used to supplement your lifestyle. If you are against using those jewel slots. Drop 3 of them to recollect that hematophagy node at the bottom of the tree for increased life leech rate.

Overall you should be doing insane damage with all those damage nodes and a damage ascendancy class. You need to have more staying power to just sit and spam out that damage without needing to run like a girl. You are a Marauder after all. The Karui never run from a fight.
 

HowTo

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Morning

It is really a long walk to get to lvl 36.

I need 4 more point.

Have a lot of partial things done, which still need some sort of intervention to complete.
Hope full it will be a step closer this weekend.

On a positive note found my 3Ex yesterday. Far from getting some upgrades going.
Main aim is to complete the prophecies asap. Think I can do without gear upgrade present.
1) getting maps from bosses is 104 done 196 to go. Very slow progress.
2) shrines I need to do odd 30 to go.
This will take some time, to complete. So no big rush here.
 

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@Deadmanza

Hello got my monkey over the weekend.

I still have prophecy's for think 36 chest's. (*2) I cant do them I die to quick, can't get away quick enough.
Come and play. You still invited me to some rounds of maps. You never pitched.
I can help you to modify chest to get better loot.

I'm getting board of the same old prophecy's over and over again.
Also bought a lot of silver to keep prophecy's rolling.
 
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Deadmanza

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@Deadmanza

Hello got my monkey over the weekend.

I still have prophecy's for think 36 chest's. (*2) I cant do them I die to quick, can't get away quick enough.
Come and play. You still invited me to some rounds of maps. You never pitched.
I can help you to modify chest to get better loot.

I'm getting board of the same old prophecy's over and over again.
Also bought a lot of silver to keep prophecy's rolling.

Hey Bud,

My ADSL line is buggered :(

Been since last week Wednesday... Following up with Telkom today! :(
 

HowTo

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Hello every one I need a build that I can smash faces next league.
I don't want it to be expensive.

So far I followed builds but don't get high enough in T-Maps. Can do t10, but die once or twice.

My current build does not allow me to do any type of reflects.(Elemental or Physical). Instant death.

If someone can supply me a link. That I can have a read on. Want something proven.
 
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HowTo

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Hey Bud,

My ADSL line is buggered :(

Been since last week Wednesday... Following up with Telkom today! :(
I hope this is not going to be long? As we know Telkom.
I hope for your part it will be fixed soon.
Now I know why you went missing.
 

Deadmanza

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I hope this is not going to be long? As we know Telkom.
I hope for your part it will be fixed soon.
Now I know why you went missing.

Yip... Hoping the same, want to redo my character with the advice I got...
 

SaiyanZ

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@Guild

Hello every one I need a build that I can smash faces next league.
I don't want it to be expensive.

So far I followed builds but don't get high enough in T-Maps. Can do t10, but die once or twice.

My current build does not allow me to do any type of reflects.(Elemental or Physical). Instant death.

If someone can supply me a link. That I can have a read on. Want something proven.

One of the fastest and cheapest leveling builds I played recently was a Blade Vortex Pathfinder with Mind Over Matter. You just need the Essence Worm Ring to use a free aura (Hatred) and keep 100% mana unreserved. The build also scales well as you get better gear:

- Vinktar flask for instant leech (Use Vaal Pact until you get Vinktar flask)
- Taste of Hate for more damage + defense
- Rathpith shield for spell block, spell damage and life
- Rumi's flask will give you max block and spell block with Pathfinder.
- Carcass jack for a little more AOE
- Divinarius dagger for a little more AOE and it has some decent spell damage/crit. Use any spell dagger until then. Whirling Blades is just too good so don't bother with wands


The rest of the equipment can just be life + resists so you can get good HP and defense. No need for a lot of uniques like some other builds and you''ll be insanely tanky with max block and Mind Over Matter plus over 5k life easily.

Here is a link to a thread where someone laid out everything:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1634532

The person who made the thread was the first Pathfinder to lvl100 in Perandus Hardcore league.
 
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HowTo

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One of the fastest and cheapest leveling builds I played recently was a Blade Vortex Pathfinder with Mind Over Matter. You just need the Essence Worm Ring to use a free aura (Hatred) and keep 100% mana unreserved. The build also scales well as you get better gear:

- Vinktar flask for instant leech (Use Vaal Pact until you get Vinktar flask)
- Taste of Hate for more damage + defense
- Rathpith shield for spell block, spell damage and life
- Rumi's flask will give you max block and spell block with Pathfinder.
- Carcass jack for a little more AOE
- Divinarius dagger for a little more AOE and it has some decent spell damage/crit. Use any spell dagger until then. Whirling Blades is just too good so don't bother with wands


The rest of the equipment can just be life + resists so you can get good HP and defense. No need for a lot of uniques like some other builds and you''ll be insanely tanky with max block and Mind Over Matter plus over 5k life easily.

Here is a link to a thread where someone laid out everything:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1634532

The person who made the thread was the first Pathfinder to lvl100 in Perandus Hardcore league.

I will have a look into this. Have ample spare time to examine this char.

I have been playing but need a punch bag in front of me. The punch bag takes most incoming damages. Last two season I had to do this.
 

Traq

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My current build does not allow me to do any type of reflects.(Elemental or Physical). Instant death.


1.Witch - elementalist with Paragon of Calamity -50% reduced reflect damage taken

2.Sibyl's Lament -30% reduced elemental reflect damage taken

3.Life leech.

Faceroll ele-reflect maps.
 

HowTo

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1.Witch - elementalist with Paragon of Calamity -50% reduced reflect damage taken

2.Sibyl's Lament -30% reduced elemental reflect damage taken Ring

3.Life leech.

Faceroll ele-reflect maps.

I have also that info on the Blade Vortex. I had a look at it but at that point no skill tree was available (When 2.3 was released.).
I will go through the feedbacks and see the comments made.
 
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@Saiyanz

Vinktar flask for instant leech (Use Vaal Pact until you get Vinktar flask)
- Taste of Hate for more damage + defense
- Rathpith shield for spell block, spell damage and life
- Rumi's flask will give you max block and spell block with Pathfinder.
- Carcass jack for a little more AOE
- Divinarius dagger for a little more AOE and it has some decent spell damage/crit. Use any spell dagger until then. Whirling Blades is just too good so don't bother with wands

I also read Tabula Rasa can be used till you can do a Carcass Jack armour. (Tabula is more affordable at the beginning and High Tier maps are possible). On the plus side you have a 6 -link armour, plus you need now to populate the gems required.
I bought a +1 to all gems for my current character, Tabula Rasa.

I have read through the comment section.
But as you said the above items make the build. Lets also see what will happen and what gets nerved.
 
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