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Deadmanza

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Awesome weekend for me, my build is now pretty op.

Got my taste of hate, got a 5L Carcass Jack (Thanks Archer ;)). I have done 86 of the atlas. So far all maps are dead easy...

Did a t14 palace twinned map deathless...
 

Archer

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Got my taste of hate, got a 5L Carcass Jack (Thanks Archer ;))

Ya I saw you wanted to pay me back but was tending to my daughter.

I'm kinda over BV :p just not feeling it anymore, not quite sure why. Really hope the new skills drop soon, but I'll keep running this in the meantime. Though without further investment I reckon T12 will be my max
 

Deadmanza

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Ya I saw you wanted to pay me back but was tending to my daughter.

I'm kinda over BV :p just not feeling it anymore, not quite sure why. Really hope the new skills drop soon, but I'll keep running this in the meantime. Though without further investment I reckon T12 will be my max

All good, have your currency when you need it :) Farmed it in a day, not to shabby.

BV is a lot of fun, well this build is anyway :p

Will finish my atlas and rip shaper apart before trying some sort of totem build.
 

SaiyanZ

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Awesome weekend for me, my build is now pretty op.

Got my taste of hate, got a 5L Carcass Jack (Thanks Archer ;)). I have done 86 of the atlas. So far all maps are dead easy...

Did a t14 palace twinned map deathless...


Told you that Blade Vortex is the OP skill to go for now. Just needs the good gear.


I'm lvl77 or so now with the Shockwave totem character I made last week. Did all 4 labs yesterday deathless. Had my first death in maps afterwards where I got perma-frozen by mudcrabs! Whilst the damage is good, (250k dps for each totem which one shots the entire screen) the playstyle feels weird as I can't afford to take too many hits since I don't leech. So I'm already abandoning the build and looking to build something where I can kill the entire screen and leech etc.

Think the next build will be a Kinetic Blaster. Just need to get a mirror level physical wand. Will go pathfinder for perma unique legacy flasks and instant leech Vinktars. 100% pierce = entire screens dead but it is a very expensive build. With the Mjolner and CoC nerfs there doesn't seem to be many skills that can give me satisfaction with fast screen clearing. Hopefully Kinetic Blast will be the replacement. I've never played a ranged attack build before.
 

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Told you that Blade Vortex is the OP skill to go for now. Just needs the good gear.


I'm lvl77 or so now with the Shockwave totem character I made last week. Did all 4 labs yesterday deathless. Had my first death in maps afterwards where I got perma-frozen by mudcrabs! Whilst the damage is good, (250k dps for each totem which one shots the entire screen) the playstyle feels weird as I can't afford to take too many hits since I don't leech. So I'm already abandoning the build and looking to build something where I can kill the entire screen and leech etc.

Think the next build will be a Kinetic Blaster. Just need to get a mirror level physical wand. Will go pathfinder for perma unique legacy flasks and instant leech Vinktars. 100% pierce = entire screens dead but it is a very expensive build. With the Mjolner and CoC nerfs there doesn't seem to be many skills that can give me satisfaction with fast screen clearing. Hopefully Kinetic Blast will be the replacement. I've never played a ranged attack build before.

Is it still worthwhile to go KB after the Frost Wall nerf? You will basically have no single target DPS?
 

Deadmanza

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Told you that Blade Vortex is the OP skill to go for now. Just needs the good gear.


I'm lvl77 or so now with the Shockwave totem character I made last week. Did all 4 labs yesterday deathless. Had my first death in maps afterwards where I got perma-frozen by mudcrabs! Whilst the damage is good, (250k dps for each totem which one shots the entire screen) the playstyle feels weird as I can't afford to take too many hits since I don't leech. So I'm already abandoning the build and looking to build something where I can kill the entire screen and leech etc.

Think the next build will be a Kinetic Blaster. Just need to get a mirror level physical wand. Will go pathfinder for perma unique legacy flasks and instant leech Vinktars. 100% pierce = entire screens dead but it is a very expensive build. With the Mjolner and CoC nerfs there doesn't seem to be many skills that can give me satisfaction with fast screen clearing. Hopefully Kinetic Blast will be the replacement. I've never played a ranged attack build before.

OP is not the word, I am only lvl 88 and can tank ele reflect twinned t14's with ease... The boss is dominus btw.

Also clear speed is insane, if I put in enough effort can easily hit 100.
 

SaiyanZ

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Is it still worthwhile to go KB after the Frost Wall nerf? You will basically have no single target DPS?

Single target will be worse with the nerf. I can swap out my Kinetic Blast for Barrage etc. I have a Shavs with WWWGGB sockets so swapping gems on the fly with different colours is possible.

- Kinetic Blast + Pierce + GMP + Increased AOE + Increased Crit Strikes + Increased Crit Multi (BGGBBB)
Swap to:
- Barrage + GMP + Increased Crit Strikes + Increased Crit Multi + Added Lightning + Added Cold (GGBBBG) (Projectile Attack Damage, Added Fire etc. Many options)
 
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SoulTax

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I have a choice to make on the axe enchant.
I am running EQ right now. So about 60% of my total dmg is Physical. (Added Fire and Hatred Aura are my elemental sources of damage).
The choice of enchants are either the 0.2-0.4% physical life leech OR
8 - 22% weapon elemental dmg.

I currently have 1% life leech. 0.8% from the tree and 0.2% from a ring. The 0.8% from the tree is all attack dmg, not just physical.

So best case scenario on both enchants is:
Life leech: increases my total leech by 0.3% or so. (With a 0.4% physical life leech)
or
Weapon ele: roughly an 8% dmg increase (with a max roll 22% enchant)

Which would you take?
 

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Single target will be worse with the nerf. I can swap out my Kinetic Blast for Barrage etc. I have a Shavs with WWWGGB sockets so swapping gems on the fly with different colours is possible.

4L Barrage - poison - FA - something
That's what the KB guys have generally opted for if the boss isn't near a real wall, and many are these days with the arenas
 

SaiyanZ

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4L Barrage - poison - FA - something
That's what the KB guys have generally opted for if the boss isn't near a real wall, and many are these days with the arenas

Will have to see if I have spare socket space for a 4L. The issue with Low-Life is that I will need to use most of my sockets for auras. Plan on:

- Hatred
- Herald of Ash
- Herald of Ice
- Discipline
- Clarity (if mana is an issue. Will go low-life with Blood Magic gems as taking the notable is very point heavy for just an extra aura or so)
- Wrath
- Anger

Will have to drop a couple auras depending on reservation costs.
 

DTBA

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So after almost all the maps. GG needs to work on balancing the tiers.

There are some crazy **** low tier maps and some t14 easier then a t8.
 

Archer

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So after almost all the maps. GG needs to work on balancing the tiers.

There are some crazy **** low tier maps and some t14 easier then a t8.

Learn the mechanics :p The real issue is that figuring out the mechanics basically means a trip to reddit, because they are really not obvious, to me anyway. Like the Crypt boss casts those weird grey things in all directions for massive damage if cursed.
 

SaiyanZ

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Just bought a perfect roll legacy Vinktar. There's only one other listed on the server with no price and the 2nd/3rd best flasks that are not perfect are listed at 500ex/400ex.

Traded my two legacy non-perfect Vinktar flasks for it which I bought a couple months ago for about 25ex each. So pretty much 50ex (or around 80ex in today's prices) for a priceless item.

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Taking baby steps towards the Kinetic Blast build.

Edit: Also bought one of those new Dying Sun flasks yesterday. A perfect roll but the roll doesn't matter that much apart from getting minimum 2 uses with it. With at least 50% increased flask effect it will give 3 extra projectiles and around 50% increased AOE. Perfect flask for Kinetic Blast. With pathfinder I should get above 60% increased flask effect.

dying sun.png

Also have perfect legacy Taste of Hate and Rumi's. Then there's also Atziri's Promise. It will be hard to choose which flask to drop as I need one movespeed flask and one anti-shock flask.
 
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SaiyanZ

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So I put together the Kinetic Blast build with whatever spare equipment I had. 100% pierce is so OP. This clears way faster than CoC or Mjolner builds ever did and it also clears 2 screens ahead. Strange how it can be so OP whilst being around since 2014. I'm using a 230pdps wand and I one shot dried lake Voll in a full party when he is in a pack or next to a wall. Also one shot entire screens clearing as fast as I can run in full party.
 

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Just a warning for people running maps. Last night we ran a t12 or 13 map, I will have to go double check the name.

It has a golden chest and some golden boss protecting it but he is fine just that the game lags soo much I got 10 fps in the arena with my i7 2600k 7970.. I will go double check the name, but it is the first arena that is that ****edup with my pc
 

HowTo

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Morning

Mother buffer currency is slow in POE.

Frustrating the least I can say.

Hopeful before weekend I will be level 90 with my character. He is not a killing machine of sort.

They say he is a Uber-Lab farmer, that needs to be seen. On everything else a lose. :D
Will not start a new character.
 
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HowTo

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So I put together the Kinetic Blast build with whatever spare equipment I had. 100% pierce is so OP. This clears way faster than CoC or Mjolner builds ever did and it also clears 2 screens ahead. Strange how it can be so OP whilst being around since 2014. I'm using a 230pdps wand and I one shot dried lake Voll in a full party when he is in a pack or next to a wall. Also one shot entire screens clearing as fast as I can run in full party.

You need to listen to sounds to see what has dropped. Then investigate also take time.
 

SaiyanZ

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You need to listen to sounds to see what has dropped. Then investigate also take time.

Yeah, though it's not so bad when I move so fast. I'm at 149% with movespeed flask and 179% with flask and Vaal Haste. Both always up.
 

SoulTax

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Morning

Mother buffer currency is slow in POE.

Frustrating the least I can say.

Hopeful before weekend I will be level 90 with my character. He is not a killing machine of sort.

They say he is a Uber-Lab farmer, that needs to be seen. On everything else a lose. :D
Will not start a new character.

You should be uber lab farming on him already. Keep a stash of 4 link gloves/boots/helms that are either uniques which are build defining, or whites (iLvl75 or higher) Then when you finish the uber lab, you get some decent things from the chests, and then you enchant one of the items. If it is a good enchant, sell it.

Lab farmers are not for deep mapping. They have decent survivability, but they just cannot keep up with other builds on clearing maps.
 
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