Naledi Pandor blames 'legacy of apartheid' for attacks on African foreigners

[Urist]

Apartheid sounds like an evil corporation that created automatons, some of which turned into politicians and others turned into criminals.
Individual responsibility is a thing reserved to live humans with faculty.

 

[Corelli]

Even the apartheid government allowed refugees in. 350 000 Mozambiquens to be exact. I remember the refugee camps set up for those and to escape to safety in SA was bad. A lot ventured through the Kruger National park to get to safety here. And we know that honestly you dont want to walk there with the lions etc. But they risked their lives.

I am all for honest refugees that we can give a better life for. But the dishonest ones thats here can generally go back. I would deport anyone that committed a crime locally.

Be like the American immigration system prior to Trump. Theyre also strict if you get car fines. So the foreigners illegally here to drive taxis. Ship them back too.

 

[The Free Radical]

Yay, let's blame ongoing xenophobia on the white people's ancestors when your own rabid and viscous tribalist ancestors raped, murdered, pillaged and maimed each other on a wholesale basis for millennia. If anything, white colonialists had a stabilizing effect on your perpetually waring tribes by creating safe buffer zones between your tribal lands.

Stupid cow.

 

[ShaunSA]

Menial jobs are not complicated, working as a teller at PicknPay is a straightforward job, it does not matter who you put there the output would be the same, pass the products along the scanner, process a payment, easy as that.

Funniest thing I've read in ages

 

[BTTB]

Once again it's the white guys fault that the black guys can't get along.

Looking at it another way, Pandor is right, it’s the lessening or lack thereof of the white man's influence in Sub-Saharan Africa that has caused these problems:

The Groot Krokodil made the prediction 34 years ago by saying, "Destroy white South Africa and our influence in the sub-continent of Southern Africa, this country will drift into faction strife, chaos and poverty"

 

[TheChamp]

Funniest thing I've read in ages

Glad I made your day.

 

[TheChamp]

Looking at it another way, Pandor is right, it’s the lessening or lack thereof of the white man's influence in Sub-Saharan Africa that has caused these problems:

The Groot Krokodil made the prediction 34 years ago by saying, "Destroy white South Africa and our influence in the sub-continent of Southern Africa, this country will drift into faction strife, chaos and poverty"

So what did he actually mean by "white South Africa?

 

[BTTB]

So what did he actually mean by "white South Africa?

Groot Krokodil is dead so we will never know exactly.
I thought of writing a page but there may be a few trolls in here I'm not willing to entertain.

What do you think he meant?

 

[TheChamp]

Groot Krokodil is dead so we will never know exactly.
I thought of writing a page but there may be a few trolls in here I'm not willing to entertain.

What do you think he meant?

White South Africans or the apartheid white rule? I don't know, just thought you knew.

 

[BTTB]

White South Africans or the apartheid white rule? I don't know, just thought you knew.

Yes I have an opinion but not sharing it for risk of feeding the trolls.

 

[Sneeky]

Everyone else's fault, never the ANC.

PANDOR: AFRICA MUST TAKE COLLECTIVE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR XENOPHOBIC ATTACKS

Pandor: Africa must take collective accountability for xenophobic attacks

Minister Naledi Pandor has delayed her trip to the united nations to meet diaspora civil society organizations in Pretoria to find solutions to the violence.

ewn.co.za

 

[gottagoon]

Pandor....the lady with the perfect English accent. Just goes to prove she ain't smart. Knows impressive words.... but doesn't know what they mean.

Almost like if Bob Mugabe had a sister.

Stupid stays stupid. All the finest education the world has to offer can not fix a non existent/compromised/retarded brain. Hell, I actually liked Pandor at one time. She was minister of science and technology. She looked like a beacon of hope.

Now she goes full retard with this latest stuff.

Retard always comes out. Eventually. It's like the Tokolosh jumped in her skirt.

 

[Vrotappel]

Foreigners are willing to work for anything and that is the reason employers prefer them, they are easily exploitable. Menial jobs are not complicated, working as a teller at PicknPay is a straightforward job, it does not matter who you put there the output would be the same, pass the products along the scanner, process a payment, easy as that.

When did locals become lazy? who was working in those jobs before foreigners came along? it is our people and not foreigners who built this country and made it what it is, the mere fact that foreigners choose to come here is testament to that, our people made this country a better place for the whole of Africa.

It's very nonsensical to now tell us that we are lazy and cannot work, just tell it like it is, foreigners are willing to work for next to nothing because they are desperate.

Apartheid government made it what it is. The ANC has been destroying it for a while now. Soon we will be like the rest of Africa.
Zim used to be not to bad at some point too. Look at it now.

 

[BTTB]

If the local folk would stop being lazy, destructive and unproductive, maybe, just maybe, companies would consider hiring them. In my opinion, the foreigners being targeted are more than willing to work for a decent wage and are productive and do not turn to the militant unions everytime they demand 12%+ increases with ridiculous perks. What I am trying to say is that perhaps the local worker should do some introspection and ask the question as to why does the foreigner have a job but I don't. One has to ask the question as to why do the majority vote the ANC into power despite the fact that they have not created sufficient jobs for the masses, despite their idle promises! No one esle is to blame for the xenophobic attacks except for the ANC government. Government created the porous borders that allows illegal immigrants to pour into our country. Government created a culture of bribery and corruption which allows police and customs to allow the foreigners into our country. Enough said, as I could carry on and on.
Stop blaming apartheid for all your Uckfups

Unsure of other places in South Africa but look where the foreigners actually live in Cape Town, not in the squatter camps but in the built up areas of Cape Town like Wynberg Main Road for example. They club together and pay rent for brick and mortar and few of them live in shacks.
Several discussions can be entertained around that statement but the opportunities were presented to our local people too but they choose to live in shacks or even accept being placed in shacks on the wet Cape Flats where services are limited and opportunities for employment zero.
Our local black man is jealous that someone with a similar skin can come here and in a short space in time live in a flat in Parklands, Kenilworth or similar place, get a job, own a car and other things like normal people.
The local black person will always cry foul as to Apartheid limitations but this exodus out of the former homelands is more about mass urbanisation.
It’s a vicious circle, of the 16 odd people I employ 3 are refugees from the Congo and they are my better performers in my business. They learn quickly and grasp and understand things better than my local staff. Yes, I have a couple of gems with my local staff but after several years of painstaking training.
From an employer’s perspective training local people has positives as you may end up with a great employee but unfortunately after many years of your time training this person they can also just leave and without notice.
The foreign guys, notably those that come from a country which has French as a first language and also knows English, those guys are the gems, easily trainable and many use their own initiative too, which is a whole other point of departure in a discussion like this.
In regards to pay, both my local and my foreign staff earn the same, there is no exploitation.

Foreigners are willing to work for anything and that is the reason employers prefer them, they are easily exploitable. Menial jobs are not complicated, working as a teller at PicknPay is a straightforward job, it does not matter who you put there the output would be the same, pass the products along the scanner, process a payment, easy as that.

When did locals become lazy? who was working in those jobs before foreigners came along? it is our people and not foreigners who built this country and made it what it is, the mere fact that foreigners choose to come here is testament to that, our people made this country a better place for the whole of Africa.

It's very nonsensical to now tell us that we are lazy and cannot work, just tell it like it is, foreigners are willing to work for next to nothing because they are desperate.

Foreigners are possibly desperate however I disagree that foreigners will work for anything but agree that locals are lazy.
I feel sorry for some of the foreign qualified artisans doing menial tasks like being a car guard though.

Isn't this a telling tale if our local people could grasp it?
Thousands of foreigners flock to South Africa in search of work because the situation is better here than back in their own country vs our local people take for granted the opportunities right in front of them but still complain and blame their shortcomings on someone else.

 

[ForceFate]

Unsure of other places in South Africa but look where the foreigners actually live in Cape Town, not in the squatter camps but in the built up areas of Cape Town like Wynberg Main Road for example. They club together and pay rent for brick and mortar and few of them live in shacks.
Several discussions can be entertained around that statement but the opportunities were presented to our local people too but they choose to live in shacks or even accept being placed in shacks on the wet Cape Flats where services are limited and opportunities for employment zero.
Our local black man is jealous that someone with a similar skin can come here and in a short space in time live in a flat in Parklands, Kenilworth or similar place, get a job, own a car and other things like normal people.
The local black person will always cry foul as to Apartheid limitations but this exodus out of the former homelands is more about mass urbanisation.
It’s a vicious circle, of the 16 odd people I employ 3 are refugees from the Congo and they are my better performers in my business. They learn quickly and grasp and understand things better than my local staff. Yes, I have a couple of gems with my local staff but after several years of painstaking training.
From an employer’s perspective training local people has positives as you may end up with a great employee but unfortunately after many years of your time training this person they can also just leave and without notice.
The foreign guys, notably those that come from a country which has French as a first language and also knows English, those guys are the gems, easily trainable and many use their own initiative too, which is a whole other point of departure in a discussion like this.
In regards to pay, both my local and my foreign staff earn the same, there is no exploitation.


Foreigners are possibly desperate however I disagree that foreigners will work for anything but agree that locals are lazy.
I feel sorry for some of the foreign qualified artisans doing menial tasks like being a car guard though.

Isn't this a telling tale if our local people could grasp it?
Thousands of foreigners flock to South Africa in search of work because the situation is better here than back in their own country vs our local people take for granted the opportunities right in front of them but still complain and blame their shortcomings on someone else.

I don't know about Western Cape and KZN but check in GP, MP and L. While there are many living in decent and upmarket places, there are many more in squatter camps.

 

[Polymathic]

25 Years and still doing nothing to actually fix the problems caused by Apartheid.

 

[gottagoon]

Apartheid is something they want voters to keep remembering. It's the ANC trump card.

Without that they cannot explain their uselessness. If Apartheid never happened they would have noone to blame.

I'm so over stupids.