NASA on 2012: It's really NOT the end of the world as we know it

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Insidious unknown planets lurking behind the sun ready to slam into Earth, supernova set to engulf the planet and giant, unseen asteroids screaming toward our globe are all theories espoused across the Internet as to how we will meet our demise in 2012.

Are any of them true or even possible? Not remotely if you look at the material NASA has put out lately which pretty much debunks any and all of the notions being floated in across the cybersphere.

"There apparently is a great deal of interest in celestial bodies, and their locations and trajectories at the end of the calendar year 2012. Now, I for one love a good book or movie as much as the next guy. But the stuff flying around through cyberspace, TV and the movies is not based on science. There is even a fake NASA news release out there..." posted Don Yeomans, NASA senior research scientist on a NASA website.

On its main website NAS posted: "Contrary to some of the common beliefs out there, the science behind the end of the world quickly unravels when pinned down to the 2012 timeline."

NASA posted its own FAQ on the topic of 2012 doomsday scenarios. It goes like this:

Q: Are there any threats to the Earth in 2012? Many Internet websites say the world will end in December 2012.

A: Nothing bad will happen to the Earth in 2012. Our planet has been getting along just fine for more than 4 billion years, and credible scientists worldwide know of no threat associated with 2012.

Q: What is the origin of the prediction that the world will end in 2012?

A: The story started with claims that Nibiru, a supposed planet discovered by the Sumerians, is headed toward Earth. This catastrophe was initially predicted for May 2003, but when nothing happened the doomsday date was moved forward to December 2012. Then these two fables were linked to the end of one of the cycles in the ancient Mayan calendar at the winter solstice in 2012 -- hence the predicted doomsday date of December 21, 2012. Just as the calendar you have on your kitchen wall does not cease to exist after December 31, the Mayan calendar does not cease to exist on December 21, 2012. This date is the end of the Mayan long-count period but then -- just as your calendar begins again on January 1 -- another long-count period begins for the Mayan calendar.

Q: Could phenomena occur where planets align in a way that impacts Earth?

A: There are no planetary alignments in the next few decades, Earth will not cross the galactic plane in 2012, and even if these alignments were to occur, their effects on the Earth would be negligible. Each December the Earth and sun align with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy but that is an annual event of no consequence.

Q: Is there a planet or brown dwarf called Nibiru or Planet X or Eris that is approaching the Earth and threatening our planet with widespread destruction?

A: Nibiru and other stories about wayward planets are an Internet hoax. There is no factual basis for these claims. If Nibiru or Planet X were real and headed for an encounter with the Earth in 2012, astronomers would have been tracking it for at least the past decade, and it would be visible by now to the naked eye. Obviously, it does not exist. Eris is real, but it is a dwarf planet similar to Pluto that will remain in the outer solar system; the closest it can come to Earth is about 4 billion miles.

Q: What is the polar shift theory? Is it true that the earth's crust does a 180-degree rotation around the core in a matter of days if not hours?

A: A reversal in the rotation of Earth is impossible. There are slow movements of the continents (for example Antarctica was near the equator hundreds of millions of years ago), but that is irrelevant to claims of reversal of the rotational poles. However, many of the disaster websites pull a bait-and-shift to fool people. They claim a relationship between the rotation and the magnetic polarity of Earth, which does change irregularly, with a magnetic reversal taking place every 400,000 years on average. As far as we know, such a magnetic reversal doesn't cause any harm to life on Earth. A magnetic reversal is very unlikely to happen in the next few millennia, anyway.

Q: Is the Earth in danger of being hit by a meteor in 2012?

A: The Earth has always been subject to impacts by comets and asteroids, although big hits are very rare. The last big impact was 65 million years ago, and that led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. Today NASA astronomers are carrying out a survey called the Spaceguard Survey to find any large near-Earth asteroids long before they hit. We have already determined that there are no threatening asteroids as large as the one that killed the dinosaurs. All this work is done openly with the discoveries posted every day on the NASA NEO Program Office website, so you can see for yourself that nothing is predicted to hit in 2012.

Q: Is there a danger from giant solar storms predicted for 2012?

A: Solar activity has a regular cycle, with peaks approximately every 11 years. Near these activity peaks, solar flares can cause some interruption of satellite communications, although engineers are learning how to build electronics that are protected against most solar storms. But there is no special risk associated with 2012. The next solar maximum will occur in the 2012-2014 time frame and is predicted to be an average solar cycle, no different than previous cycles throughout history.

Q: How do NASA scientists feel about claims of pending doomsday?

A: For any claims of disaster or dramatic changes in 2012, where is the science? Where is the evidence? There is none, and for all the fictional assertions, whether they are made in books, movies, documentaries or over the Internet, we cannot change that simple fact. There is no credible evidence for any of the assertions made in support of unusual events taking place in December 2012.

Last month NASA also debunked the theory of a giant supernova engulfing Earth in 2012.

From NASA: "Given the incredible amounts of energy in a supernova explosion - as much as the sun creates during its entire lifetime - another erroneous doomsday theory is that such an explosion could happen in 2012 and harm life on Earth. However, given the vastness of space and the long times between supernovae, astronomers can say with certainty that there is no threatening star close enough to hurt Earth. Astronomers estimate that, on average, about one or two supernovae explode each century in our galaxy. But for Earth's ozone layer to experience damage from a supernova, the blast must occur less than 50 light-years away. All of the nearby stars capable of going supernova are much farther than this."

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Q: Are there any threats to the Earth in 2012? Many Internet websites say the world will end in December 2012.

A: Nothing bad will happen to the Earth in 2012. Our planet has been getting along just fine for more than 4 billion years, and credible scientists worldwide know of no threat associated with 2012.

How can they rule out all possibilities for the next 4 billion years :wtf: What about rogue asteroids or any other unforeseen phenomenon?

I am unconvinced!
 

iblade

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Q: Are there any threats to the Earth in 2012? Many Internet websites say the world will end in December 2012.

A: Nothing bad will happen to the Earth in 2012. Our planet has been getting along just fine for more than 4 billion years, and credible scientists worldwide know of no threat associated with 2012.

I am sure that the dinosaurs said the same thing ;)
 

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ha, have forwarded that to some people that are seriously gearing up for the end of the world this year :twisted:
 

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I do not believe that the world will end this year nor do I believe that a planet/giant meteor will smash into Earth any time soon either. But I do question why NASA (and others?) always quickly discount the existence of other planets, e.g. the tinfoil hatters' Nibiru.

My wife took a VERY similar pic of the sun and another "object" yesterday. She did not have a camera ready so she snapped it with the iPad cam. I'll post it when she returns later (with said iPad).

nibiru1.gif
 

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MickeyD:7550035 said:
My wife took a VERY similar pic of the sun and another "object" yesterday. She did not have a camera ready so she snapped it with the iPad cam. I'll post it when she returns later (with said iPad).

nibiru1.gif
Thats a nice pic of a Sun Dog.
 

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For sale: 2012 disaster potion.

How does it work: At the exact moment that the world ends, you will be teleported instantly into an alternative parallel universe where you will continue to exist as though nothing has happened. The process is so flawless you will not even notice it. All your friends and family will still be there!

Will it work?: Of course it will. In fact we are so confident in our product that we offer a 100% money back guarantee if it does not work.

What else?: 2012 disaster potion is a patented product and can be used in the case of Raptures and Armageddon's as well.
 

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I do not believe that the world will end this year nor do I believe that a planet/giant meteor will smash into Earth any time soon either. But I do question why NASA (and others?) always quickly discount the existence of other planets, e.g. the tinfoil hatters' Nibiru.

My wife took a VERY similar pic of the sun and another "object" yesterday. She did not have a camera ready so she snapped it with the iPad cam. I'll post it when she returns later (with said iPad).

nibiru1.gif

If NASA can't see it, surely an iPad would have no chance to see it?
 

copacetic

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For sale: 2012 disaster potion.

How does it work: At the exact moment that the world ends, you will be teleported instantly into an alternative parallel universe where you will continue to exist as though nothing has happened. The process is so flawless you will not even notice it. All your friends and family will still be there!

Will it work?: Of course it will. In fact we are so confident in our product that we offer a 100% money back guarantee if it does not work.

What else?: 2012 disaster potion is a patented product and can be used in the case of Raptures and Armageddon's as well.

What's this gonna cost? 10% of my income?
 

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How can they rule out all possibilities for the next 4 billion years :wtf: What about rogue asteroids or any other unforeseen phenomenon?

I am unconvinced!

Please re read, you are not understanding the answer properly. They ask if anything is going to happen in 2012,which Nasa says no and refutes. They only talk about 2012 not further. They then go onto say how rare it is for anything to happen to the earth and that its been fine for 4 billion years.
 

killadoob

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We know most of the stories are rubbish but it makes for interesting reading.

I like the mayan theories, civilizations just disappearing with little to no explanation, we still have no idea how the dinosaurs got nailed as mentioned. I also cannot believe that nasa know it all, if they did we would not be stuck on this planet, we would be warping through space faster than the speed of light if that is even possible :p.

One thing i would like to ask you guys, if nasa could see an asteroid that was going to destroy earth would they come out and say it is going to happen?

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast15feb_1/
http://www.jiroolcott.com/2012.html

I prefer the second one but both are interesting
 
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I cannot believe that people are making money off gullible people worried about the end of the world. Its amazing 1) how stupid people are, and 2) how innovate entrepreneurs can be when it comes to making money! Kinda dishonest though.
 

zippy

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We know most of the stories are rubbish but it makes for interesting reading.

I like the mayan theories, civilizations just disappearing with little to no explanation, we still have no idea how the dinosaurs got nailed as mentioned. I also cannot believe that nasa know it all, if they did we would not be stuck on this planet, we would be warping through space faster than the speed of light if that is even possible :p.

One thing i would like to ask you guys, if nasa could see an asteroid that was going to destroy earth would they come out and say it is going to happen?

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast15feb_1/
http://www.jiroolcott.com/2012.html

I prefer the second one but both are interesting

There are so many amateur astronomers out there that its all but impossible to hide a discovery for long. Also, the big telescopes on the ground are shared by many countries. NASA isnt the only game in town.
 
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