NASA's next Moon mission could be delayed and over budget

Pythonista

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Lucky they don't have a looming deadline like JFK's "before the end of the decade" speech.
 

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Why are they still wasting money to develop rockets when they have already given up on using their own transport into space? SpaceX seems to be making much better progress, and there are other companies as well. Rather use them for the transport and focus on the mission itself?
 

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They are battling to get to the moon by 2020, does anybody believe they actually made in 1969 :unsure:

The amount of work that is required today is vastly more than in the 60's, same as with cars or planes or anything else. As technology improves, everything gets designed and redesigned many times over, and there is a much greater emphasis on the safety of the people affected by it.

From the first specification for the Spitfire until the first production unit was about 7 years. The F-35 program was planned to be in production 26 years after development started. The same will be true when you compare a car from the 60's to a modern car. That is the cost of progress.

I am sure if Nasa was not too worried about whether the astronauts made it to the moon and back alive they could do it next year. But every accident, failure and disaster they have had over the last couple of decades just adds to the amount of testing, checking and amount of failsafes built into their products.
 

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I can understand more testing etc, but from 1969 to 1972 they "say" they did 6 moon missions, not once having a major problem. With today's technology and experts we can't even get the rocket technology right. I take you spitfire analogy, a spitfire and an F-35 are vastly different aircraft, one flies at supersonic speeds and pull massive G's, the other not so much, so I could understand if they wanted to get to the moon in 30 min or carry 100 people with, then a lot more needs to be done. With regards to the moon missions all things are equal, same gravity you fighting from 1969, same distance (almost) just 51 years of technology development and we still cant make it yet? Just trying to understand how they say that a scientific calculator of today has more processing power than the 1969 mission computer, yet still cant land on the moon today???
 
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I can understand more testing etc, but from 1969 to 1972 they "say" they did 6 moon missions, not once having a major problem. With today's technology and experts we can't even get the rocket technology right. I take you spitfire analogy, a spitfire and an F-35 are vastly different aircraft, one flies at supersonic speeds and pull massive G's, the other not so much, so I could understand if they wanted to get to the moon in 30 min or carry 100 people with, then a lot more needs to be done. With regards to the moon missions all things are equal, same gravity you fighting from 1969, same distance (almost) just 51 years of technology development and we still cant make it yet? Just trying to understand how they say that a scientific calculator of today has more processing power than the 1969 mission computer, yet still cant land on the moon today???


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eg2505

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what a surprise, NASA is a giant black hole the US government throws money into for space pens and other overpriced stuff nobody needs.
where everything takes a century to get done.

the Private sector is a better "custodian" of space, than NASA ever was,
as the Riches and Technology gained from Space can make Amazon or Apple look like a Spaza shop in comparison.
 

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I can understand more testing etc, but from 1969 to 1972 they "say" they did 6 moon missions, not once having a major problem. With today's technology and experts we can't even get the rocket technology right. I take you spitfire analogy, a spitfire and an F-35 are vastly different aircraft, one flies at supersonic speeds and pull massive G's, the other not so much, so I could understand if they wanted to get to the moon in 30 min or carry 100 people with, then a lot more needs to be done. With regards to the moon missions all things are equal, same gravity you fighting from 1969, same distance (almost) just 51 years of technology development and we still cant make it yet? Just trying to understand how they say that a scientific calculator of today has more processing power than the 1969 mission computer, yet still cant land on the moon today???

Not once having a major problem? Apollo 13? The Apollo 1 fire?

The costs of the Apollo program was also massive, and before that, there was the Gemini program

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1579/1
 

vic777

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what a surprise, NASA is a giant black hole the US government throws money into for space pens and other overpriced stuff nobody needs.
where everything takes a century to get done.

the Private sector is a better "custodian" of space, than NASA ever was,
as the Riches and Technology gained from Space can make Amazon or Apple look like a Spaza shop in comparison.

As for the space pen:
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/...-in-the-research-of-a-space-pen-when-the-ussr
 

Johnatan56

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what a surprise, NASA is a giant black hole the US government throws money into for space pens and other overpriced stuff nobody needs.
where everything takes a century to get done.

the Private sector is a better "custodian" of space, than NASA ever was,
as the Riches and Technology gained from Space can make Amazon or Apple look like a Spaza shop in comparison.
NASA must be one of the worst black holes, considering all the stuff they've invented that's been pretty much given away for free (in terms of patent):
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And then you have sites dedicated to it, identifying technologies based off of NASA tech/inventions:
https://spinoff.nasa.gov/

Here is the 2015 brochure:
https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2015/pdf/2015_Brochure_Web.pdf

Past that point they no longer use PDF, rather highlight a couple of people.
Here is 2016 summary of most impactful NASA spinoffs:
https://www.nasa.gov/offices/oct/40-years-of-nasa-spinoff

There's also a wiki list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spinoff_technologies

And a full list of patents by category/sector here: https://technology.nasa.gov/patents
 

ShaunyCT

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"NASA's next Moon mission could be delayed and over budget"

Just more propaganda..
 
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