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CrazyMadMan
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ADSL sucks dont sign up and dont pay.
Fantasy is what people want, reality is what they need.
Fantasy is what people want, reality is what they need.
Lourens,
You might find this surprising, but you'll probably be doing best just getting the TelkomInternet offering.
All the other ISPs offering internet over ADSL service simply resell the service provided by Telkom, usually at a higher rate, but sometimes, they throw in some value added stuff, like hosting, extra e-mail accounts or the ability to buy more bandwidth. Depends what you need who will be best for you.
If you are a very conservative user and doubt that you'll ever need more than 3GB of bandwidth a month, go for TelkomInternet. To be very honest, everyone sucks just as badly. At least, with Telkom, you don't pay much for the horrific service. Also, as one small consolation, Telkom include the bill on your phone bill, so you don't have to make extra debit order or other arrangements to pay it.
TelkomInternet charge a maximum of R249 per month for their basic internet over ADSL option. I say maximum rate because the fee seems to be calculated on a per-day basis, in shorter months, the amount on the bill will vary from R230 to R245. Other ISPs will charge a fixed amount anywhere between R250 and R300. In some extreme cases, they might even go up to R500 (Hello M-Web!), but usually throw in value added services at that point.
In my humble opinion, if you are paying more than R250 per month for the standard 3GB capped offerings, you are getting ripped off badly.
There is one exception to the statement above. If you are looking to spend some real money, there is one ISP that isn't just a reseller and that will offer you superior service to TelkomInternet and all the other reseller ISPs.
If you have at least R1200 per month to drop on ISP fees, you can go for DataPro. They offer internet over ADSL service mostly targeted at business which includes a managed UNIX server set up at your premises to handle your mail, act as a proxy and provide group calendar support, etc, for businesses. The real feature of DataPro's internet over ADSL offering is that it has no bandwidth limit. In other words, you can download as much and as often as you like. No post-3GB end to international surfing.
The DataPro option is costly though, so unless you are very serious about internet access, don't go there. The R1200 per month is just the ISP fee, this does not include line rental, which you are already paying. So, if you have the business ADSL line from Telkom plus the business internet over ADSL offering from DataPro, you can expect to pay about R2000 per month for internet access.
If you have R2000 per month to spend though, it's well worth it.
Willie Viljoen
Web Developer
Adaptive Web Development
You might find this surprising, but you'll probably be doing best just getting the TelkomInternet offering.
All the other ISPs offering internet over ADSL service simply resell the service provided by Telkom, usually at a higher rate, but sometimes, they throw in some value added stuff, like hosting, extra e-mail accounts or the ability to buy more bandwidth. Depends what you need who will be best for you.
If you are a very conservative user and doubt that you'll ever need more than 3GB of bandwidth a month, go for TelkomInternet. To be very honest, everyone sucks just as badly. At least, with Telkom, you don't pay much for the horrific service. Also, as one small consolation, Telkom include the bill on your phone bill, so you don't have to make extra debit order or other arrangements to pay it.
TelkomInternet charge a maximum of R249 per month for their basic internet over ADSL option. I say maximum rate because the fee seems to be calculated on a per-day basis, in shorter months, the amount on the bill will vary from R230 to R245. Other ISPs will charge a fixed amount anywhere between R250 and R300. In some extreme cases, they might even go up to R500 (Hello M-Web!), but usually throw in value added services at that point.
In my humble opinion, if you are paying more than R250 per month for the standard 3GB capped offerings, you are getting ripped off badly.
There is one exception to the statement above. If you are looking to spend some real money, there is one ISP that isn't just a reseller and that will offer you superior service to TelkomInternet and all the other reseller ISPs.
If you have at least R1200 per month to drop on ISP fees, you can go for DataPro. They offer internet over ADSL service mostly targeted at business which includes a managed UNIX server set up at your premises to handle your mail, act as a proxy and provide group calendar support, etc, for businesses. The real feature of DataPro's internet over ADSL offering is that it has no bandwidth limit. In other words, you can download as much and as often as you like. No post-3GB end to international surfing.
The DataPro option is costly though, so unless you are very serious about internet access, don't go there. The R1200 per month is just the ISP fee, this does not include line rental, which you are already paying. So, if you have the business ADSL line from Telkom plus the business internet over ADSL offering from DataPro, you can expect to pay about R2000 per month for internet access.
If you have R2000 per month to spend though, it's well worth it.
Willie Viljoen
Web Developer
Adaptive Web Development
www.crazyweb.co.za they where offering ADSL at R220, but else Telkom cause technically everything comes from telkom anyways. If you download alot maybe MWEB cause they offer a 6/9 gig package as well so you don't have to piss around changing accounts.
There is no peace without war!!!
There is no peace without war!!!
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by CrazyMadMan</i>
<br />ADSL sucks dont sign up and dont pay.
Fantasy is what people want, reality is what they need.
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gee, give me at least the opportunity to experience the services that sucks so much - then I can also rant and rave or mostly rant with experience
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Anyways, I just hope it's going to be better than the ISDN that I had, otherwise immigration is becoming s serious option for having decent internet access.
Lourens
<br />ADSL sucks dont sign up and dont pay.
Fantasy is what people want, reality is what they need.
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gee, give me at least the opportunity to experience the services that sucks so much - then I can also rant and rave or mostly rant with experience![}
]Anyways, I just hope it's going to be better than the ISDN that I had, otherwise immigration is becoming s serious option for having decent internet access.
Lourens
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by podo</i>
<br />Lourens,
You might find this surprising, but you'll probably be doing best just getting the TelkomInternet offering.
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Yep, I know that, but Telkom wants me to wait another 96 hours before I can even apply for the ADSL service from them and then wait another 48 hours for a username and password - in the true spirit of Telkom's renown client resistance services - makes me warm and fuzzy all over![xx(]
Lourens
<br />Lourens,
You might find this surprising, but you'll probably be doing best just getting the TelkomInternet offering.
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Yep, I know that, but Telkom wants me to wait another 96 hours before I can even apply for the ADSL service from them and then wait another 48 hours for a username and password - in the true spirit of Telkom's renown client resistance services - makes me warm and fuzzy all over![xx(]
Lourens
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Pr13sT</i>
<br />www.crazyweb.co.za they where offering ADSL at R220, but else Telkom cause technically everything comes from telkom anyways. If you download alot maybe MWEB cause they offer a 6/9 gig package as well so you don't have to piss around changing accounts.
There is no peace without war!!!
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how do you know that? I mean 220 bucks? I can't find it on the site.
<br />www.crazyweb.co.za they where offering ADSL at R220, but else Telkom cause technically everything comes from telkom anyways. If you download alot maybe MWEB cause they offer a 6/9 gig package as well so you don't have to piss around changing accounts.
There is no peace without war!!!
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how do you know that? I mean 220 bucks? I can't find it on the site.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Lourens</i>
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how do you know that? I mean 220 bucks? I can't find it on the site.
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Nerver mind![
Phoned them and is now using them - thanks for refering me, they are on the ball [8].
Lourens
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What do you mean by organising another account? Do you have to pay more etc....
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dominic Rooney</i>
<br />What do you mean by organising another account? Do you have to pay more etc....
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Yea, I had them on the line and they know their stuff [^] but the mentioning of a price increase [] real soon made my mouse pointer moving to the browsers close button very quickly.
Lourens
<br />What do you mean by organising another account? Do you have to pay more etc....
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Yea, I had them on the line and they know their stuff [^] but the mentioning of a price increase [
] real soon made my mouse pointer moving to the browsers close button very quickly.Lourens
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Lourens</i>
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Yep, I know that, but Telkom wants me to wait another 96 hours before I can even apply for the ADSL service from them and then wait another 48 hours for a username and password - in the true spirit of Telkom's renown client resistance services - makes me warm and fuzzy all over![xx(]
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What utter bollocks of them... it seems to me that they always try to shoot themselves in the foot, I can't see how they would want you to wait that long.
I ordered the ADSL line from them and told them that I also wanted internet access right away. On the day the guy came to install the line, it was up and running at about 16:45, but he could give me no username and password. I was just a little bit ticked about this, but it wasn't the techie's fault.
Fortunately, he was nice enough to give me a reference number for the installation and the right number at Telkom to call.
At about 18:15, I had my username and password and was happily surfing away, so I really can't see why they thought it would be a good idea to drive you away by making you wait for another week. To get the username so quickly, I did have to insist though, this meaning phoning TelkomInternet every 15 minutes and immediately asking for a supervisor each time, just to annoy them enough to get them to help me. Typical bloody Telkom...
Willie Viljoen
Web Developer
Adaptive Web Development
<br />
Yep, I know that, but Telkom wants me to wait another 96 hours before I can even apply for the ADSL service from them and then wait another 48 hours for a username and password - in the true spirit of Telkom's renown client resistance services - makes me warm and fuzzy all over![xx(]
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
What utter bollocks of them... it seems to me that they always try to shoot themselves in the foot, I can't see how they would want you to wait that long.
I ordered the ADSL line from them and told them that I also wanted internet access right away. On the day the guy came to install the line, it was up and running at about 16:45, but he could give me no username and password. I was just a little bit ticked about this, but it wasn't the techie's fault.
Fortunately, he was nice enough to give me a reference number for the installation and the right number at Telkom to call.
At about 18:15, I had my username and password and was happily surfing away, so I really can't see why they thought it would be a good idea to drive you away by making you wait for another week. To get the username so quickly, I did have to insist though, this meaning phoning TelkomInternet every 15 minutes and immediately asking for a supervisor each time, just to annoy them enough to get them to help me. Typical bloody Telkom...
Willie Viljoen
Web Developer
Adaptive Web Development