Nehawu vows 'mother of all fights' if Treasury freezes public servants' wages

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They literally watched what happened to SAA but think they will get a different result.

All I can say is OMFG

 

[3WA]

From 2012:

Nehawu supports Zuma

Cosatu's biggest union first to nail colours to the mast THE general secretary of South Africa's biggest public sector union is the first alliance leader to publicly support a second term for President Jacob Zuma.Fikile Majola, general secretary of Nehawu, which has 200000 members, has urged...

www.sowetanlive.co.za

You made your bed NEHAWU. GFY.

 

[Mystic Twilight]

dude you can rob our military by knife point... have you been to the cape...

By the time a ruling party employs an organisation to suppress the populace, often but not always, it's actually the youth movement or similar of the ruling party that does all the underhand work and instill fear and intimidation (zanu-pf is a recent example, more extreme is the nazi brown shirts), then when it becomes normalised do state based organisations like the military become involved to keep the suppression.

 

[access]

By the time a ruling party employs an organisation to suppress the populace, often but not always, it's actually the youth movement or similar of the ruling party that does all the underhand work and instill fear and intimidation (zanu-pf is a recent example, more extreme is the nazi brown shirts), then when it becomes normalised do state based organisations like the military become involved to keep the suppression.

yeah i was joking with a bit of the truth

 

[Mystic Twilight]

yeah i was joking with a bit of the truth

Use italics or an emoji next time

 

[Urist]

BS. I'd rather have a job, albeit at the same salary, than no job at all.

Nah, retrench the useless ones and make the job attractive for useful ones.

 

[grok]

And then people wonder why the government wants to disarm its citizens of their legally-owned firearms?

Just observe the ratio of BPP (bodyguards per politician) since the ANC took over..

Ironically, the NP arguably being the most hated politicians in South Africa, never seemed as threatened by the masses as ANC politicans do.

Why do you think is that?

 

[GoofySmurf]

Useless info, but thanks anyway.

ROFL owned !!!

 

[cheesus]

Civil servants are relatively well-remunerated in this country....they don't need more above-inflation increases!

12K per month basic salary is 'well-payed' according to you? We clearly have different definitions of the word.

 

[Supervan II]

12K per month basic salary is 'well-payed' according to you? We clearly have different definitions of the word.

Aaah, but you forget all the perks, eg housing subsidy (which is a generous amount in anyone's books).

 

[Ancalagon]

The great thing about this is that the unions are going to back the ANC into a corner where the only option will be to deal with the unions harshly.

The country simply doesn't have the money. Oh I know they will try the usual things like taxing the whites more, but the whites just don't have the billions necessary to fix this mess. So eventually the ANC will admit that it needs to start using the R word - retrenchment.

 

[access]

ROFL owned !!!

you can take a horse to the water...

 

[aleksandar]

12K per month basic salary is 'well-payed' according to you? We clearly have different definitions of the word.

Just add R3000 and that is how much specialist doctor is paid in Serbia, or army officer rank colonel (that spent years studying to get there).
Living costs are fairly similar but with cheaper and better functioning public transport.

Or you can look closer and get doctor in Zim for R3000.

At the end of the day, productive members of our society are robbed, over taxed and abused for decades now.
Although population is growing by 1 million a year since 2012 number of taxpayers is shrinking.

Simply put there is no money and R12k (plus perks) is amount that many if not most of SA's can dream of.

 

[Jola]

Relatively well renumerated compared to who?

Paid well above private sector, according to reports that I have seen.

A 10% reduction would be in order, maybe for two or three years consecutively.

 

[TheChamp]

Paid well above private sector, according to reports that I have seen.

A 10% reduction would be in order, maybe for two or three years consecutively.

Let's see the reports.

 

[Jola]

Let's see the reports.

These are report-backs from colleagues in industry, who lost quite well paid workers to government for increases of over 50%. You can also see this in municipalities, where managers are paid well over what they should be paid.

I'm pretty sure that this is common, you won't budge me from my opinion that government employees are significantly overpaid.

In most countries, including in SA in Apartheid days, government employees are typically paid less than the levels in industry because of better job security, better retirement benefits, and usually lower productivity.

 

[TheChamp]

These are report-backs from colleagues in industry, who lost quite well paid workers to government for increases of over 50%. You can also see this in municipalities, where managers are paid well over what they should be paid.

I'm pretty sure that this is common, you won't budge me from my opinion that government employees are significantly overpaid.

In most countries, including in SA in Apartheid days, government employees are typically paid less than the levels in industry because of better job security, better retirement benefits, and usually lower productivity.

Why does one or two exceptions have to be used as a benchmark? How many of those 50% pay jump beneficiaries do we have versus teachers or nurses, and other lowly employees?

Read this, it was posted by someone trying to make the same argument.

Government Employees vs. Other Workers: Who Earns More?

Compare the average South African’s wages to that of the average civil servant, and you’ll see why so many people are flocking to government.

compareguru.co.za

 

[ToxicBunny]

Why does one or two exceptions have to be used as a benchmark? How many of those 50% pay jump beneficiaries do we have versus teachers or nurses, and other lowly employees?

I think the issue is more towards the pay gap in public sector...

The peons (teachers, nurses etc) are paid worse in comparison to the private sector counterparts in general... the managers and upwards on the other hand can be paid much much more than their private sector counterparts.

 

[Enzo Matrix]

Workers cannot suffer because of the country’s stagnant economic performance and low tax receipts,” the union stated.

Geeziz you uneducated, utter fool. That is exactly how it works in the adult world

 

[TheChamp]

I think the issue is more towards the pay gap in public sector...

The peons (teachers, nurses etc) are paid worse in comparison to the private sector counterparts in general... the managers and upwards on the other hand can be paid much much more than their private sector counterparts.

Exactly, I am well aware of that, very contrary to the BS that is being peddled here.

The union that represents public servants has been very vocal on that, there are too many managers who earn the big bucks and too few hands on deck. That should be dealt with.