Nehawu vows 'mother of all fights' if Treasury freezes public servants' wages

[Bewlen]

The sooner SA reaches rock-bottom, the sooner it can make the choice to change and prosper, or become a failed state.

NEHAWU, I say go for it.

 

[Jola]

Exactly, I am well aware of that, very contrary to the BS that is being peddled here.

The union that represents public servants has been very vocal on that, there are too many managers who earn the big bucks and too few hands on deck. That should be dealt with.

Sure, as always there would be some of the lower paid workers who are not overpaid, or are even underpaid.

However, contrary to your rather vocal sweeping statements, I can assure you that many, many government employees are completely overpaid, and this is a huge, huge problem.

Also far too many employees for the functions to be performed, ie very, very low productivity.

Also present in SAA, Eskom, most municipalities, etc, etc.

And also one of the main reasons why SA will be downgraded to complete junk quite soon.

 

[TheChamp]

Sure, as always there would be some of the lower paid workers who are not overpaid, or are even underpaid.

However, contrary to your rather vocal sweeping statements, I can assure you that many, many government employees are completely overpaid, and this is a huge, huge problem.

Also far too many employees for the functions to be performed, ie very, very low productivity.

Also present in SAA, Eskom, most municipalities, etc, etc.

And also one of the main reasons why SA will be downgraded to complete junk quite soon.

That's the problem, I don't need your assurances, put facts on the table and let them do the talking.

And what sweeping statements are you talking about? All I did was ask the guy who said they are relatively well paid to whom was he comparing them, he disappeared, you came in tried to support his statement with some mysterious reports you have seen, I asked for the reports, dololo.

Don't be too all over the place talking about SAA and Eskom, let's stick to one thing and move it out of the way first.

 

[Jola]

That's the problem, I don't need your assurances, put facts on the table and let them do the talking.

Believe what you like, I have seen enough information about salaries in government and municipalities, I stick to my demand for 10 % salary cuts for all of those organisations. For two years running.

But yes, maybe only for the higher paid levels.

 

[TheChamp]

Believe what you like, I have seen enough information about salaries in government and municipalities, I stick to my demand for 10 % salary cuts for all of those organisations. For two years running.

But yes, maybe only for the higher paid levels.

That's why I was hoping you'd share the information, so that those of us who have not seen enough government salary information can shut up and retreat back to our corners.

 

[Jola]

That's why I was hoping you'd share the information, so that those of us who have not seen enough government salary information can shut up and retreat back to our corners.

Lazy, aren't you, there are many reports on this.

Municipal managers to earn more than Ramaphosa

The highest-earning municipal manager in the country will take home an annual salary higher than that of President Cyril Ramaphosa.

www.iol.co.za

The rise and rise of public servants pay in South Africa

The average government employee earns far more than the average worker outside of government – with salary increases above inflation, along with all the additional perks that come with working for the state.

businesstech.co.za

Samwu slams R3.9m salaries for municipal managers

Samwu general secretary Simon Mathe says this happens at a time when workers are underpaid and are only getting a salary increase of R4.31 per day.

ewn.co.za

These are the best-paid government employees in South Africa

The latest budget documents published by National Treasury shows how much money is being set aside to pay government employees in the 2019/2020 financial year.

businesstech.co.za

Tito Mboweni freezes salaries of cabinet ministers, premiers and MECs

Finance minister Tito Mboweni has slapped cabinet ministers, premiers and MECs with a pay freeze as government revenue took a pounding amidst a gloomy economic outlook.

www.sowetanlive.co.za

 

[TheChamp]

Do you understand what a public servant means in the context of this thread Jola?

 

[Jola]

Do you understand what a public servant means in the context of this thread Jola?

Do you ?

All of those links refer to public servants.

Personally, however, I am talking more about lowers levels where salary levels are well in excess of private sector levels.

 

[TheChamp]

Do you ?

All of those links refer to public servants.

Personally, however, I am talking more about lowers levels where salary levels are well in excess of private sector levels.

That's why I specifically added the "in the context of this thread" part. I have a feeling you don't looking at the some of the links you have posted.

 

[Jola]

That's why I specifically added the "in the context of this thread" part. I have a feeling you don't looking at the some of the links you have posted.

Think what you like.

I believe that we seriously need salary cuts for public servants, at least for the higher paid ones.

Pretty sure that the IMF will agree with me when the stuff hits the fan in the next year or two.

 

[ponder]

That's why I was hoping you'd share the information, so that those of us who have not seen enough government salary information can shut up and retreat back to our corners.

Short of publishing peoples payslips on the net there's no way to share that info. I could give you some payslips but it would be unethical and illegal, I'll be so deep in the **** I won't be able to breathe. When you tell others what they earn (ballpark without disclosing personal info) they simply don't believe you.

 

[ɹǝuuᴉM]

The sooner SA reaches rock-bottom, the sooner it can make the choice to change and prosper, or become a failed state.

NEHAWU, I say go for it.

South Africans have already made the choice #LoveANC #LiveWithIt