Neotel: End-to-end SAT3 circuits within the month

[Shake&Bake]

I didn't see any mention of the "Month End" in a quote from AJ Pandey - only the Headline to the article.

 

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The Minister of Communications, Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri, recently announced policy directives declaring the undersea landing stations essential resources and effectively ending Telkom’s SAT3 exclusivity rights.

“It is Government policy that the cost of access to international connectivity is affordable and that all arrangements regarding access or use of international cables and/or facilities do not unfairly exclude others from use of or access to the cables,” the minister said.

Saying that it is guavamental policy that international connectivity is [currently] affordable, does not make it so.

I'm probably over-analysing what Poison Ivy spat out there, the Ministerial Bovinity's words are either not well chosen, or she needs to go back to Siff School to properly learn the mind trick techniques of a Siff lord - bcos it doesn't work on me.

And what's with the whole "cost of access" thing? - can Poison Ivy say anything without it needing one of her infamous unclarifications...

 

[rpm]

I didn't see any mention of the "Month End" in a quote from AJ Pandey - only the Headline to the article.

Pandey points out that despite the challenges progress is being made, and that Neotel expects to be able to provide end-to-end circuits on SAT3 “within the month”.

 

[Tns]

yet more talk to confuses the masses

 

[eltherza]

Good news for companies and consumers is that significant price reductions are on the cards when this happens. “There is no question that prices will drop and services will improve,” Pandey concluded.

Soo... why arent isps advertising lower prices? surely they would be on the ball to get as many people as possible?

This is just shows there wont be a price cut anytime soon. Seems like all the ISPs dont even know how much neotel will be asking or it's the same as telkom. Either way, no price drops this year.

 

[lordnokon]

Well guys dont get your hopes up too soon.

 

[sabagamma]

A huge step forward - WA I am expecting NeoTel broadband within the next 2 months you hear me!

 

[emmanuel]

Heck I don't mind paying R300 for 384k w/ a resonable cap! I am paying R300 for 64k uncapped but shaped!!

This is part of the problem; this thinking of 384k for R300.

While we're not at around R300/month for uncapped at 8mbps SA is lagging way behind with what is available for ADSL.

 

[cyberarty]

Talk Talk Talk Talk....all they ever do is talk. We never see any outcome. The price per gig (R50-R70) has been the same for the last couple of years, even though there has been great changes in cables/isp's/monopolies. We still don't see any price reductions except on the line rentals which is not really impressive. If you want a basic uncapped ADSL account you still have to pay the same installments as for a small car.

We will always pay the prices we are paying now. ICASA is the main problem. And they have a hold on everyone, they will make sure there is no price reductions when it comes to R/GIG.

 

[Geriatrix]

Ahem... IBWISI.

 

[Beta]

ibiwisi for f@k sakes.

 

[Ekhaatvensters]

The price per gig (R50-R70) has been the same for the last couple of years, even though there has been great changes in cables/isp's/monopolies.

What great changes in cables? We're still using SAT3 for international, that's the problem.

Hopefully Neotel can squeeze cheaper rates out of Telkom/SAT3, at least it will be something for the wait until the real cables start showing up.

 

[KampfGherkin]

So where's my minimum 4Mbits uncapped and unshaped for no more than R400 p/m? As long as I don't have that, why ****ing bother getting excited!

 

[LabAnimal]

yea its good news, prices may drop... that is if it will get passed onto us... it may take a wile before we even see the price drop... that is if ICASA doesnt drag their feet...

So the price drops. Then what happens... More people jump onto the net, International bandwidth starts to drag slower and slower up-until the point we finally get a new cable landed in SA. So i don't see Big caps heading our way, I do see lots of shaping happening tho!.

Don't hold your breath guys, It may get cheaper, but it will get slower before it gets a whole lot faster!

 

[Ekhaatvensters]

So where's my minimum 4Mbits uncapped and unshaped for no more than R400 p/m? As long as I don't have that, why ****ing bother getting excited!

Don't bother cluttering up threads about a specific cable/project either. This isn't going to get anyone uncapped and unshaped access, but it's a start.

 

[Toby]

Icasa Christmas Leave

Does anyone have the Icasa leave Roster Yet. I suspect that this will happen in Q1/2008

Oh Sh*t, Easter is on the way
Okay, Lets say Q2/2008

Just a thought

 

[kris860911]

End of the month? October? PFFFT!!! Oh please.
Email WA or OpenWeb or Cybersmart or anybody. They haven't heard anything from Neotel, which means that there is no way that Neotel will have anything at all by the end of the month, and plus all our ISP's will have to test their connections with Neotel before switching, in case it falls over, then we get mad at the ISP's. So once it is launched fully by Neotel. it will still take a month or two for the ISP's to grab on. So we looking at January or so.

 

[Alchemist]

kris860911 - This is about NeoTel connecting to the SAT3 cable within a month. This date has nothing to do with the offering of services to isp within a month. That will probably only happen 1Q of 2008.

 

[redheadfan]

What great changes in cables? We're still using SAT3 for international, that's the problem.

Hopefully Neotel can squeeze cheaper rates out of Telkom/SAT3, at least it will be something for the wait until the real cables start showing up.

Don't forget that Telkom isn't fully utilising the SAT3 cable at the moment.
They have in the last year brought the cable up to full planned capacity of 120 Gb/s. However further upgrades are possible as technology has improved since the cable was originally laid.

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Telecoms/808.html

 

[Prometheus]

WiMax for christmas?

For interests sake, what do those in the know think the price can realistically drop too?

Taking into account how much capacity sat3 has, how low could the price go?

For instance, if the price dropped to R2 the surge would overshoot capacity.

Any thoughts?

Well if Neotel is really serious about providing less expensive bandwidth a guesstimate would be R10 (wholesale) over the current R35 to R45 just to test the waters. So your standard 1GB account will be 3GB and 3GB would be 9GB. That is all a big if.

Soo... why arent isps advertising lower prices? surely they would be on the ball to get as many people as possible?

This is just shows there wont be a price cut anytime soon. Seems like all the ISPs dont even know how much neotel will be asking or it's the same as telkom. Either way, no price drops this year.

Umm... and how do they provide it once they advertise it?