Nersa wants to charge solar panel users up to 1,000% more for power than big mines

ToxicBunny

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All I read is "Eskom wants...wants ...wants" but they never ask how we, the actual paying normal customer can afford to satisfy their "wants". Man, some serious changes need to happen...fast!
Except this isn't eskom, this is nersa.
 

The Trutherizer

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Haha... Cleverly worded. The question is. How much do mines and similar pay for electricity? To my knowledge these large consumers typically have lower rates than residential users. In the order of cents per kwh. And they have long running multi-decadal contracts with Eskom at those prices. Revenue from residential power cross subsidises these sweetheart rates.
If I'm not mistaken the rate I currently pay for electricity is about 20 times or more than they do.
And which large consumer do they pick? There's a great variety of agreed rates between them.
 

Herr der Verboten

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South Africans with solar panels could pay 1,000% more for electricity than big power users

South African households that use both their own solar power and Eskom's grid could soon be paying up to 10 times — or 1,000% — more for electricity than the country's biggest power users.

Sunday newspaper Rapport reports this is one of the implications of a new electricity pricing methodology planned by the National Energy Regulator of South Africa (Nersa).
Got to pay you black anc taxes :coffee:
 

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Here they are:
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system32

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Well, then, in that case, one needs to look at how much electricity pricing, connection fees, basic tarrifs and more cost you and then make a sober decision on whether it is still worth your while and worth the living costs to live in the country and simply rather to just emigrate for a more cost-effective country with better living costs and standards.
South African households that use both their own solar power and Eskom’s grid could soon be paying up to 10 times — or 1,000% — more for electricity than the country’s biggest power users.
Nersa/Eskom/Metro are welcome to charge me 10x and even network connection fees, but then:

1)
Nersa/Eskom/Metro must allow me to go off-grid with no network fees. Most metro don't allow this.​
I have 22kWh of battery and that gets me 100% off grid, except rainy days where it's about 60%. I could add another battery (or more solar panels) and then use the generator for those once in a decade moments.​

2)
If I decided to stay on grid, then Nersa/Eskom/Metro must allow me to feed into the grid and pay me same as they charge me 10x for electricity I feed in during peak - AKA load shifting.​
Easy for me to store and push back to the grid during peak and make 10x $$$.​

3)
Nersa/Eskom/Metro must stop the net-zero theft.​
They must pay me for all the kWh I feed into the grid.​
They must pay for every single kWh and not just to net-zero my account.​

Let's be fair and encourage Solar. Electricity can flow in both directions.

Also why is Eskom using OCGT so much - because of maladministration, corruption, incompetence and now they want us to pay for maladministration, corruption, incompetence.
 

bwana

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Four days ago for 27 hours.

2 days ago for 3 hours
7 days ago for 11 hours

Lots of construction and cable theft in my area.
We had a power outage for 12 hours last week. Ran the generator until it came back online.

The only inconvenience we face with extended outages is the internet going down but nothing we can really do about that.
 

semaphore

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We had a power outage for 12 hours last week. Ran the generator until it came back online.

The only inconvenience we face with extended outages is the internet going down but nothing we can really do about that.
No thanks, I can't handle that irritating noise and I live in a complex so need to turn it off at 10. Unfourntely I have a marine tank as well which requires constant oxygenation.
 

Shadowchaser1

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Do I understand this correctly? Nersa/Escom are totally against alternative ways of generating power, it seems? You can have a price hike even if they can't provide full service? You can't or aren't allowed to sue Escom if they can't provide FULL service? I assume businesses don't get a refund for the duration of LS?
 

gimpex

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That sort of idea will just kill the grid tied solution... It will make it feasible to just go straight offgrid.

I’ll just get a generator to charge up the batteries on rainy days.

They don’t understand that people will make plans which will mean even less sales for them
 

Kawak

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So it's time of use tariffs, and then feed in surcharge, and maybe some form of a grid charge or basic charge, if it works out ridiculous, I will go off grid.
 
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