Netflix must now follow FPB classification guidelines

Nerfherder said:
How so ?

Many fibre providers don't use Telkom infrastructure.
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The Transit providers those ISPs use very likely do use Telkom infrastructure at some point or they peer with Telkom and some site you that you access locally may only available over routing on Telkom infrastructure. Even more specifically, if the ISP uses SAT3/WACS for any international bandwidth requirements, then they are paying Telkom for that pleasure.
 
ToxicBunny said:
The Transit providers those ISPs use very likely do use Telkom infrastructure at some point... Or some site you that you access locally is only available over routing on Telkom infrastructure.
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Nope.

I know they could but if you have Lightspeed they only use their own infrastructure and DFA. I think there are a few providers that pride themselves on not using any Telkom infrastructure.
 
Nerfherder said:
Nope.

I know they could but if you have Lightspeed they only use their own infrastructure and DFA. I think there are a few providers that pride themselves on not using any Telkom infrastructure.
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It will be a very rare ISP that manages to entirely avoid any Telkom infrastructure at all points and routes and and and... yes they themselves may not use any Telkom infrastructure to provide their service to clients, but their underlying providers may peer with Telkom infrastructure or use Telkom infrastructure to provide a portion of their routing.

Telkom have by far and away the largest fibre backbone in the country, its almost a given that at some point a packet will touch that infrastructure.
 
What a waste, would have preferred netflix ignore them, so we can see how useless they are really.
 
Hasie6 said:
Not talking backbone. As ISP ,they useless and more expensive.
I can sent you price comparisons.?
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And what would sending me price comparisons achieve specifically?
You made a blanket statement in relation to Telkom or DSTV... oh and you probably support DSTV in some random way if you watch any of the large sporting franchises in this country, since they have stakes in many of them and own the broadcasting rights.
 
SeRpEnT said:
Really? Youre ok with this ****?

Today Netflix. Tomorrow they wanna police the whole internet (Think of the cadre ca$$$h opportunities to charge large sites to join the FPB!!) . With ANC guidelines mind you. Duh.

Nee wat. Most people don't give a phuk about this bunch of tossers that only want to secure themselves a stinking rich future.
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As you say most people don't give a toss what these guys say, and really apart from the stupid "licence fee" I don't see what the fuss it, is it going to stop any content? Getting worked up over something that is a thing in every country / region.


We really should do way with it all and have one standard globally but that's a whole other can of fish.

My understanding is, you pay the fee (robbery), plonk your rating sticker on the can and carry on as usual.... what am i missing that makes it so bad?
The comments make it sound like we're not going to get the boobies or something.
 
Eniigma said:
As you say most people don't give a toss what these guys say, and really apart from the stupid "licence fee" I don't see what the fuss it, is it going to stop any content? Getting worked up over something that is a thing in every country / region.


We really should do way with it all and have one standard globally but that's a whole other can of fish.

My understanding is, you pay the fee (robbery), plonk your rating sticker on the can and carry on as usual.... what am i missing that makes it so bad?
The comments make it sound like we're not going to get the boobies or something.
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If the FPB had their way, no you wouldn't see any boobies. They are reserved for his highness King Goodwillie down in the savage rural KZN areas.
 
Jan said:
Making a few educated guesses... This isn't Netflix giving in.

This is its lawyers saying that under the previous version of the FPB Act, they had a leg to stand on in refusing to pay the FPB's ridiculous "licensing fee" for self classification.

With the FPB Act amended, Netflix is not on the same legal ground it was back in 2017 when it said it would not pay.
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...guess answers the question, why the FPB Amended Act was passed with such post haste - generally these boring bills meander throw parliament at glacier pace....
 
Nerfherder said:
Nope.

I know they could but if you have Lightspeed they only use their own infrastructure and DFA. I think there are a few providers that pride themselves on not using any Telkom infrastructure.
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The shortest route to Europe is still SAT-3/WACS. Unless they build their own undersea cables, they're going to be hitting Telkom at some point...
 
SeRpEnT said:
Really? Youre ok with this ****?

Today Netflix. Tomorrow they wanna police the whole internet (Think of the cadre ca$$$h opportunities to charge large sites to join the FPB!!) . With ANC guidelines mind you. Duh.

Nee wat. Most people don't give a phuk about this bunch of tossers that only want to secure themselves a stinking rich future.
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think you will find that old MultChoice is somewhere in the shadows too...we now know to what extent they would go, to stifle any competition.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
The shortest route to Europe is still SAT-3/WACS. Unless they build their own undersea cables, they're going to be hitting Telkom at some point...
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Unless an ISP uses only the Seacom Cable on the East Coast or the ACE cable on the West Coast, Telkom has a stake in all the other cables...
 
ToxicBunny said:
Unless an ISP uses only the Seacom Cable on the East Coast or the ACE cable on the West Coast, Telkom has a stake in all the other cables...
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Seacom adds latency as we saw with the recent SAT-3 cable break. Not sure how much capacity on ACE is available to us...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Seacom adds latency as we saw with the recent SAT-3 cable break. Not sure how much capacity on ACE is available to us...
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Yeah, Seacom was always a bit of a half arsed solution to get to Europe.

ACE is only running at just over 10% capacity currently, so I doubt more than 200 or 300 Mbps is lit for SA customers.

But it largely confirms my point, that even if an ISP proudly claims not to use any Telkom infrastructure, at some point its almost a given that Telkom will have a stake in or provide some of the infrastructure used for internet in this country...
 
Eniigma said:
Please explain what is so bad about it?

Sure the 800k or whatever to self rate is stupid and exhobataint, but there is nothing wrong requiring local ratings, many countries have different rating systems. Something that is 16 in France may well be 18+ or Restricted in the US for example.

Not defending them per se, just trying to understand what the issue is.
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Because censorship in any form is wrong..People should think and regulate themselves...
 
Eniigma said:
Please explain what is so bad about it?

Sure the 800k or whatever to self rate is stupid and exhobataint, but there is nothing wrong requiring local ratings, many countries have different rating systems. Something that is 16 in France may well be 18+ or Restricted in the US for example.

Not defending them per se, just trying to understand what the issue is.
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You answered your own question there..

Oh, and the assumption that some deployed cadre has the authority to rate what I can or cannot see, reminds of old apartheid days.
 
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ToxicBunny said:
Pretty much, pay us R800k a year to use your existing ESRB ratings from the states, but send us someone so we can train them and they can then ignore everything we've supposedly "taught" them.
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Yep to SELF-classify - there anyway should be broader classifications that are more universal. It either has sex or violence, or not. How can you have 150+ country's classification systems and standards.
 
stefan9 said:
Because censorship in any form is wrong..People should think and regulate themselves...
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Off topic

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Camera literaly locks up at the sight of a nekked body. Wait till that get a news of this.... will be come standard feature on all phones and can't be disabled like all that bloatware crap that comes with them.
 
Jamie McKane said:
Netflix must now follow FPB classification guidelines

The Film and Publication Board (FPB) has announced that it has signed a distribution agreement with Netflix, bringing the international streaming service under its regulatory domain.

"Netflix joins the likes of Showmax, Google, and Apple to become the ninth online distributor to contract with the FPB, ensuring compliance with the Film and Publications Act, and the Classification Guidelines," the FPB said.
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Yet another proudly south african localized mafia-like institution supported and upkept by the anc terrorist government.
 
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