*Sobbing quietly in corner* My little telkom story (said company not worthy of proper noun usage): Been using my rented copper infinitum since '98, got R7 deal for dialup. I live in little section of Brackenfell, Protea Village, and the exchanges here are, as I understand, all modern. telkom tells me that for dialup purposes and there's nothing they can do to help, I'm stuck with an infernal 28.8k connection. ARGH!! I still try to survive with this antiquated Alexander Grame Bell line... but boy am I wollowing! telkom tell me that its tough luck on me. Oh well. I ordered 192k ADSL about three weeks ago online, then made a chance visit to Tygervalley telkom shop, to confirm my order. They didn't know what I was talking about. They asked if I wanted to reorder, which I did, which was about a week and a half ago. That part is still fine, as I know the uptake for the service is high. I was a bit miffed though, why have the service online if it doesn't do what was intended. I've gotten quite an education here on the forums recently, also just joined as a member today. From what I have learn't over this whole debacle, I've got second thoughs about my order! GROAN! I hope we all get to the bottom of this telkom mess and get some truthful answers out of them. SOZ if my contribution was long in the tooth...