New ADSL pricing structure on its way

Siembambaa

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Typical Telkom ... drop the line rental (which isnt charged anywhere else in the world) a few percent and then jackup the cost of the 30 GB package by 900%.
 

antowan

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Ya... It is like containing squishy jelly in your hands. Plug a hole here and it squirts out somewhere else. TELKOM SUCKS!!! Goverment, please put a stop to this! Telkom is an old hand at this and they should be stopped! Hopefully ICASA is wise enough to stop this in its tracks!

COMPETITION COMPETITION COMPETITION!!!!!!!!!
 
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Ah what a joke... Sick bunch of businessmen..

Its about as backwards as a company can go...
 

desraid

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we need a strong competitor from overseas.
SA seems lagging behind by far!
 

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rpm said:
I spoke to Douglas and he simply welcomed the new structure and not the specific pricing. His main concern is that a small group of high capacity users can impact negatively on the majority of standard users. From an ISP’s perspective it does make sense…
I just cannot agree ... why is this "small group of high capacity users" always claimed as such a huge problem in South Africa, but it's not a problem in practically every other country in the world?
 
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Turtle said:
I just cannot agree ... why is this "small group of high capacity users" always claimed as such a huge problem in South Africa, but it's not a problem in practically every other country in the world?
Blaming high bandwidth users is just part of being a ©unt. They (©unts) only exist in SA :D
 

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Can't u see that Telkom wants us to get revved up abt them possibly increasing there prices to unbeliaveably high rates so that when the say they will only raise the price by R200 for Adsl we are all still happy that they didn't implement this idea.
 

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Guys, lets try to be positive here, I figure if our neighbouring countries are able to improve their telecoms, they maybe itll have the same effect as it did in other big countries. I figure if surrounding african countries up their telecoms then maybe somehow the cost of telecoms to telkom will drop, itll be like one big heavy usage network, then local providers will most likely get access at even better rates, just like how telecoms are damn cheap in australia and in northern countries.
Australia even has 8MB ADSL.

Or

We could all make some big online strike or everyone teams up and ups their usage to a state where telkom cant handle the usage, well something like that. As a businessman, I rely on telecoms alot, and im in deperate need of an always on connection, myadsl is my only hope because theres no wireless coverage in my area unless I go with the cellular services.

Apart from that, we live in a country that is money hungry and they dont use it for any good.
 

Vr3nuhm

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*takes a deep breath*

GUSSFRABA

*takes another deep breath*
*getting out of control*

VR3NUHM MAD, VR3NUHM SMASH, VR3NUHM SMASH TEL$^&#KOM!

Arghhhh why... why oh WHY?

Telkom's whole idea must have been made by some TrailerTrash inbred M*&^$*^ker. I cant believe how stupid someone can get... OMG!
 

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You know, charging per GIG would be fine. If it meant that you didn't LOSE your gigs when the month rolled over...

Cara, RPM, could you enquire as to that, from your "source" ?
 

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TheRoDent said:
You know, charging per GIG would be fine. If it meant that you didn't LOSE your gigs when the month rolled over...

Cara, RPM, could you enquire as to that, from your "source" ?
Roelf, would you couple that with a basic entitlement of X Gb at a fixed flat rate, or per Gb starting at zero?
 

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MBS, not sure I understand you correctly. But if these prices are going to go into effect, I cannot see anyone quietly handing over their unused gigs to Telkom at the end of the month, as is the current situation.

Whether you bought 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9, or 3 5 10 20 30Gig's shouldn't make a difference. How can something you purchased as a measure of bandwidth, or bytes transferred "expire".

It's just silly...
 
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mbs

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Roelf, that's precisely what I was getting at. At the moment, one can purchase a 'package' of X Gb for a fixed fee, and you lose the unused amount every month. If this remains, and you are then charged per Gb for amounts used in excess of your package, most peeps won't bother claiming a 'roll-over' for unused amounts, as they may be small. On the other hand, if per Gb pricing was applied from a base of zero usage, it would be tantamount to theft if the unused purchase volume were not rolled-over and accumulated in subsequent months. The problem with per Gb pricing from a zero base, though, is that this may prove to be particularly punitive for those with perfectly-justifiable 'high-volume' needs of 10Gb/month upwards...
 

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GOOD LORD! What in the name of all that is good and holy can they be thinking??? Arse in a bucket! 30 GB for over 2k (retail) is insane.

Well, the whole world has dropped out of my bottom...
 

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Well, if I buy 30gig, I'd expect it to be cheaper per gig, than buying 1 gig at a time, since I'm dolloping out a whole wad of cash to them, upfront. This is normal business sense. You buy bulk, you get it cheaper. There must be no frigging time limit on it.

If I buy 1gig, it should be more expensive, actually.

Now, I haven't done the calcs but from a cursory glance it sounds like each gig, is just as expensive as any other gig, whether you bought it in "bulk" or not.

This is getting really ridiculous.
 

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TheRoDent said:
Well, if I buy 30gig, I'd expect it to be cheaper per gig, than buying 1 gig at a time, since I'm dolloping out a whole wad of cash to them, upfront. This is normal business sense. You buy bulk, you get it cheaper.

People seem to have this habit of imposing realistic business sense on Telkom.

The real logic goes as follows:

Telkom: Hooray! We made R4bn profit.
Us: Pricks!
Telkom: Oh NO! Looks like people are enjoying quality, fast, fairly affordable internet access! What can we do?

Telkom: *ding* 900% price increase!!! That'll fix the sods!! HA HAHAHA HAHAHAHA *wipes spittle from mouth*
 

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TheRoDent said:
Well, if I buy 30gig, I'd expect it to be cheaper per gig, than buying 1 gig at a time
According to the article, there is a sliding cost to the VISP, R59.50 to R54.00 per Gig.

Not much of a discount tho.
 

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What i find amusing is that telkom still hasnt released an official statement. They are not willing to comment but say that something is in the works


If they were to realese an official statement then the ICASA would trample them into the ground.

So all they are doing is letting us know that they know they are scared of ICASA!!!!

We just need to back up ICASA and make a stand.
 

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Sorry, I for one don't believe that Telkom is scared of ICASA. ICASA really isn't independant at all and lacks teeth. There are lots of ways for Telkom to fight ICASA. Telkom may be mildy worried that if there is enough of a public outcry, the minister may be forced to get off her backside and act. Unlikely though.
 

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I think the key is to continue the pressure for as long as it takes. Any industry can get through a period of bad publicity.

If you remember a little while ago, there was a big consumer out cry with regards to the banks and bank charges being the highest (or close to) in the world. The banks promised reform.

Now that the media frenzy has died down, where are the changes? The banks don't have to do anything anymore as everyone seems to have forgotten - and come November, I bet I get a letter describing the new escalated bank rates
 
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