New AMD Ryzen processors – more powerful than Intel at lower prices

Until some independent reviews and benchmarks come out, excuse me if I don't trust the ones from AMD
 
I just wish the local distributors wont collude by adding 30% markup until Intel starts reducing their prices.
 
I still have a Athlon II X3 (yes, a tricore, transcoding video into another format is a thing of patience), might be worth it to upgrade now :)
 
I still have a Athlon II X3 (yes, a tricore, transcoding video into another format is a thing of patience), might be worth it to upgrade now :)

My HTPC is running a tri-core. I once managed to unlock the 4th core but the temps went out the roof. It still rocks at standard settings tho'
 
Until some independent reviews and benchmarks come out, excuse me if I don't trust the ones from AMD

I don't see any reason to doubt the benchmarks shown so far (Cinebench, Blender and Handbrake), we just need a wider gamut of tests. Also overclockability on air and water still need to be determined.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(microarchitecture)#Desktop_processors

So there's the 1800X for $499, 1700X for $399 and 1700 for $329. The only differences seem to be the clock speeds. I've read that all the Ryzen processors can be overclocked, so doesn't that mean everyone looking for the best value should buy the cheapest 7 series CPU and overclock it with a good CPU cooler? And even if you don't, won't boost clocking to 3.7GHz mean you're almost on par with the other CPUs for gaming, as you'll surely always be boosted while gaming?

Is there something I'm missing? Why the big price difference in the 7 series range?
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(microarchitecture)#Desktop_processors

So there's the 1800X for $499, 1700X for $399 and 1700 for $329. The only differences seem to be the clock speeds. I've read that all the Ryzen processors can be overclocked, so doesn't that mean everyone looking for the best value should buy the cheapest 7 series CPU and overclock it with a good CPU cooler? And even if you don't, won't boost clocking to 3.7GHz mean you're almost on par with the other CPUs for gaming, as you'll surely always be boosted while gaming?

Is there something I'm missing? Why the big price difference in the 7 series range?

No. There's very tight binning - the higher the bin, the better the overclock.
 
[XC] Oj101;19212118 said:
No. There's very tight binning - the higher the bin, the better the overclock.

But even at stock configuration the 1700 boosts to 3.7GHz, compared to 4GHz for the 1800X. Surely a few hundred MHz doesn't matter for gaming?

Isn't a 3.0GHz normal speed a good thing? It saves power if you're not gaming or doing some other CPU-intensive task?
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(microarchitecture)#Desktop_processors

So there's the 1800X for $499, 1700X for $399 and 1700 for $329. The only differences seem to be the clock speeds. I've read that all the Ryzen processors can be overclocked, so doesn't that mean everyone looking for the best value should buy the cheapest 7 series CPU and overclock it with a good CPU cooler? And even if you don't, won't boost clocking to 3.7GHz mean you're almost on par with the other CPUs for gaming, as you'll surely always be boosted while gaming?

Is there something I'm missing? Why the big price difference in the 7 series range?

Binning possibly...the chips may be identical but manufacturing variations mean some would reach higher clockspeeds than others. During validation, they would test and badge accordingly.

Contradicting what I just said is that the 1700 on boost gets to pretty much the same clockspeeds as the 1700X. Maybe Ryzen overclocks better than I expect but I doubt it...I'm expecting even with great cooling that the chips are limited to their boost + couple percent.
 
Even if the performance is within a few % of Intel I hope it comes in slightly cheaper. I need to build a new PC so I'm waiting for Ryzen to be available.
 
Even if the performance is within a few % of Intel I hope it comes in slightly cheaper. I need to build a new PC so I'm waiting for Ryzen to be available.

It's more than slightly cheaper when you look at performance per dollar. It's like twice as good in extreme cases.
 
It's more than slightly cheaper when you look at performance per dollar. It's like twice as good in extreme cases.

I'm looking forward to 1700 vs. 7700K benchmarks. They're basically the same price.
 
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