New Apple MacBook Pro and Air – Pricing for South Africa

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As long as it can run vscode, Python and node I'm set.
 
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Johnatan56

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It will probably be able to run it eventually, however that isn't the issue. Running it like a pig is still running it.
Should actually run it fine since the UI of VS code is electron, and pretty sure since it runs fine on Macos it will run fine on this one with an emulation layer.

If you don't have that many addons etc, vs code is a very light weight IDE (and no, don't look at RAM usage, will differ based on how much installed ram, look at how electron works).
 

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Geekbech scores are useless. How long does it take to encode a video?

TL;DR: Macs with T2 hardware encoding support will generally see 3x realtime encoding for H.264 content, and x5 for HEVC/H.265 video (in these specific tests). That's ignoring other standards like ProRes, which Apple can accelerate on T2 as well.
Whingers will whinge : regarding the RAM : the M1 RAM does not work like RAM on an Intel machine.
M1 8Gig is a different animal......don't be a Trumpet...go read up before sounding off....may actually learn something new.
Only at the present time does M1 have a properly unified memory architecture. Intel and AMD will both support it next year in their APUs, and both AMD and NVIDIA will have support for it in their discrete GPU products before the end of the year.

But 8GB is still a very small amount of memory for machines these days.
Apple, for a company who: ignore customer needs regarding flexibility inside their products..soldered this and that, can't swop out batteries, no headphone jack or charger, glass screen, and and and, have made a lot of money, sold amazing amounts of products, and been copied by all and sundry.
Why anyone would copy Apple is beyond me?
Because Apple's products generally stand the test of time and hold their value well due to brand recognition. You can buy a Macbook today and sell it for 20% less two years later when you want to upgrade.

If you want to use a shitty Windows notebook that has poor trackpad performance and low quality displays, there are definitely options out there. Even when Apple had TN panels in the Macbook Air, they were still better than TN panels found in other notebooks.
 
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Because Apple's products generally stand the test of time and hold their value well due to brand recognition. You can buy a Macbook today and sell it for 20% less two years later when you want to upgrade.

If you want to use a shitty Windows notebook that has poor trackpad performance and low quality displays, there are definitely options out there. Even when Apple had TN panels in the Macbook Air, they were still better than TN panels found in other notebooks.

This.

An 8 year old 2012 MacBook Pro sells for around R4,5-R5k on Carbonite. Show me any 8 year old Windows laptop still functioning, and that sells for around R5k on the 2nd hand market.
 

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New Apple MacBook Pro and Air – Pricing for South Africa


iStore South Africa has released pricing for the new Apple MacBook Pro and MacBook Air notebooks as part of a pre-order campaign.

The new Apple MacBook devices use the Apple M1 chipset, which Apple said delivers significant performance and power efficiency improvements over the previous generation.

The 13-inch Apple MacBook Air delivers up to five-times the graphics performance of the previous generation thanks to the Apple M1 chipset.

Thats reasonable pricing, actually. I am waiting to see the new Mac mini pricing, too!
 

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This.

An 8 year old 2012 MacBook Pro sells for around R4,5-R5k on Carbonite. Show me any 8 year old Windows laptop still functioning, and that sells for around R5k on the 2nd hand market.
The HP I grabbed in 2012 still works. AFAIK it was stolen as well.
 

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This.

An 8 year old 2012 MacBook Pro sells for around R4,5-R5k on Carbonite. Show me any 8 year old Windows laptop still functioning, and that sells for around R5k on the 2nd hand market.

Has lots and lots of refurbished enterprise grade laptops that put the MBP to shame.

Be careful to equate a crappy consumer grade PC to a MacBook, they are not in the same category.

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Has lots and lots of refurbished enterprise grade laptops that put the MBP to shame.
Although in many cases you're still dealing with old trackpads designed before Precision Driver support was a thing, a panel lottery like no other, and varying amounts of cheap battery, keyboard, and chassis designs. Margins on OEM hardware is in the low double-digit range, and there's very little room to improve the design.
 

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Although in many cases you're still dealing with old trackpads designed before Precision Driver support was a thing, a panel lottery like no other, and varying amounts of cheap battery, keyboard, and chassis designs. Margins on OEM hardware is in the low double-digit range, and there's very little room to improve the design.
Everyone uses an usb mouse anyway...
 

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This.

An 8 year old 2012 MacBook Pro sells for around R4,5-R5k on Carbonite. Show me any 8 year old Windows laptop still functioning, and that sells for around R5k on the 2nd hand market.

My HP Pavilion g series is 8 years old and still works. I don't believe that I would get R5k for it though.
 

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This.

An 8 year old 2012 MacBook Pro sells for around R4,5-R5k on Carbonite. Show me any 8 year old Windows laptop still functioning, and that sells for around R5k on the 2nd hand market.
There are quite a few if going the same price range ~2014 or later.

Apple definitely got the other manufacturers to up their game and managed to keep that reputation despite pretty much every MacBook since 2010 having some fatal flaw.

Apple just killed bootcamp
Most using boot camp would be using the pro, if Apple stopped it there they might have issues since a lot of devs I know that got assigned MacBook instantly put windows or Linux on it, depending on their needs.

Moving ARM on these weaker devices is a good move though, it's the audience most likely to accept it and act as "beta" users for devs to start porting stuff.
 
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