New BlackBerry packages - what you need to know

I thought the R59/mth you pay was for Internet access - ONLY. And everything else was free.

At the risk of exposing my ignorance of BB services but, you actually have to pay like R15/mth to use BB messenger? With no Internet access?

My R7,99/year for WhatsApp calculates to like what? R0.66/mth.
 
McCrazieGoalz said:
I thought the R59/mth you pay was for Internet access - ONLY. And everything else was free.

At the risk of exposing my ignorance of BB services but, you actually have to pay like R15/mth to use BB messenger? With no Internet access?

My R7,99/year for WhatsApp calculates to like what? R0.66/mth.
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Its not about the cost, its about a reliable serivce. Also Whatsapp has a data cost, this package includes a the data associated with BBM.

Also I didn't see a plan that had just BBM, they all have one kind of mail as well.
 
how to confuse the masses. this is ridiculous, I stopped reading that table 1/3 down... :wtf:
 
Apparently there are no men who can multi-task.
And no women who can't.

At least they got that right, hey? :D
 
McCrazieGoalz said:
I thought the R59/mth you pay was for Internet access - ONLY. And everything else was free.

At the risk of exposing my ignorance of BB services but, you actually have to pay like R15/mth to use BB messenger? With no Internet access?

My R7,99/year for WhatsApp calculates to like what? R0.66/mth.
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Its for data not bbm itself,plus the server is more secure since its encrypted directly to BB servers the carriers cannot intercept messages.
 
falcon786 said:
Its for data not bbm itself,plus the server is more secure since its encrypted directly to BB servers the carriers cannot intercept messages.
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If i remember correctly (which i rarely do), each blackberry device has it's own private key built in. As far as I understood it, RIM themselves don't have access to device keys...

whatsapp doesnt have the luxury of hardware, so they have to issue the keys (which means they have access to those keys?) so they can (by law order or otherwise) decrypt the messages.

Could be wrong, but thats my understanding.
 
eltherza said:
If i remember correctly (which i rarely do), each blackberry device has it's own private key built in. As far as I understood it, RIM themselves don't have access to device keys...

whatsapp doesnt have the luxury of hardware, so they have to issue the keys (which means they have access to those keys?) so they can (by law order or otherwise) decrypt the messages.

Could be wrong, but thats my understanding.
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If RIM did not have those keys, how do they register devices for BBM? Meaning, any device with a key may register (not the case).

Encryption is basic linear algebra.

One person has a key, the other the inverse of that key. That's how data is encrypted.

RIM is only following a policy not to use the inverse of the keys to look at your data.

The matrices are really big, 128^2 numbers per grid. (128bit encryption)

EDIT: Those BBM keys everyone is flaunting around isn't the key they use to encrypt your information, rather, its more a reference to the larger key.
 
Nerfherder said:
Its not about the cost, its about a reliable serivce.
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Bkackberry are down far more often than my service provider...

Nerfherder said:
Also Whatsapp has a data cost, this package includes a the data associated with BBM.
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On this phone I've sent and received a total of 1800 Whatsapp messages with a combined data usage (including media) of 5.5MB. That's over the course of a few months and I can message any other phone - not just someone else with the same brand as me (so BBM users inevitably also have whatsapp installed). So the data saving is in the region of a few cents to maybe a rand per month.

So all in all, Blackberry is notoriously more unreliable and far more expensive in terms of messaging...
 
Nether said:
If RIM did not have those keys, how do they register devices for BBM? Meaning, any device with a key may register (not the case).

Encryption is basic linear algebra.

One person has a key, the other the inverse of that key. That's how data is encrypted.

RIM is only following a policy not to use the inverse of the keys to look at your data.

The matrices are really big, 128^2 numbers per grid. (128bit encryption)

EDIT: Those BBM keys everyone is flaunting around isn't the key they use to encrypt your information, rather, its more a reference to the larger key.
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Talk private and public keys

My phone has the private key and can issue (or maybe not issue and comes with a matching public key...) the public key to another BBM. Sharing the public keys with each other to communicate and using the private key to decrypt. RIM have no part in the matter in this scenario (although i may be wrong).

How do you access BIS? Well, the ISPs (vodacome,mtn,cellc) block access for anyone not paying the fee. Or RIM register your hardware mac address or something... doesn't really matter, the encryption of data can (and should be) be completely out of RIMs control.
 
who will want to buy a crapberry anyway these days.
 
With BB Absolute, at R59/mth capped at 200MB?

Doom for BB if they really go 'Absolute'.

Absolute will make BB so 2000s. This 2013. Data is a whole lot cheaper.
 
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