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supersunbird
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Will not be called Ka is SA and we all know why lol.
I like the sedan one and would probably get one if it is available in SA.
I like the sedan one and would probably get one if it is available in SA.
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Given how horrible cars built in India are, I will wait until this thing has been through a few crash tests and such...
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My Figo is horrible?
Honest answer, yes... it should not be "rebadged" as a new car.. its a very very old Fiesta and is nowhere near as safe as a modern car.
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At most it is a 13ish year old Fiesta, its not like its a Bantam/Ikon/Fiesta-style Fiesta. And the only reason it scored 0 on the Global NCAP is because it didn't have airbags and such in the vehicles used for those crashes.
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It still scored 0.
With Airbags it may have scored 1 or 2.... but not more than that.
From a safety perspective I wouldn't touch a Figo with a bargepole, and tbh, I would rather spend the money on a second hand newer model vehicle. Will be safer, and probably have more equipment.
Just like the vivo or etios. Old tech at new prices.
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It's entirely based on having a airbag or not. The newest BMW, if without an airbag would also score 0.
I think it would have scored a 3 in SA spec.
I think it would have scored a 3 in SA spec.
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At highway cruising speeds it probably wouldn't make much difference though, given that these tests are conducted at 60 km/h...
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The structural integrity of the newest BMW is considerably higher than the Figo...
It may score a 0 due to the rules of the NCAP, but the occupants stand a much higher chance of surviving in a newer BMW (hell even a BMW of the same age as the Figo's original model) purely due to the rest of the vehicles structure.
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[video=youtube;PLOo5g73284]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLOo5g73284[/video]
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Yeah, I've seen that video..
To counter that :
[video=youtube;gOOQVfrgstM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOOQVfrgstM[/video]
Notice the significant difference in structural integrity, the BMW's windscreen doesn't break, the dash doesn't push into the interior....
I would HATE to see the state of the Figo in a side impact though, given the structural damage caused by a frontal impact where there is significant structure to absorb the impact.
To counter that :
[video=youtube;gOOQVfrgstM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOOQVfrgstM[/video]
Notice the significant difference in structural integrity, the BMW's windscreen doesn't break, the dash doesn't push into the interior....
I would HATE to see the state of the Figo in a side impact though, given the structural damage caused by a frontal impact where there is significant structure to absorb the impact.
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R100 000 car vs +R400 000 car (given that a 116i standard is R326 500), of course it has its benefits, not disputing that.
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You said a BMW without airbags would score zero.. so you started the comparison...
Ok then.. cost comparison..
R100k BMW 3 series
[video=youtube;JNvrpA6mlSo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNvrpA6mlSo[/video]
Notice the windscreen still stays intact, and the dashboard doesn't move into the passenger compartment either.
Ok then.. cost comparison..
R100k BMW 3 series
[video=youtube;JNvrpA6mlSo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNvrpA6mlSo[/video]
Notice the windscreen still stays intact, and the dashboard doesn't move into the passenger compartment either.
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Yeah, but the Figo is not nearly the death-trap the Datsun or those Chinese brands are. Hope this new Figo is even better, will have to wait and see
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Agreed, its not nearly the death trap the Datsun is....
Still a rubbish and horrible car for the price if you ask me. I will be pleasantly surprised if the version we get here is any good. The European version will be acceptable (purely due to safety law), but I doubt we will see that version here.
Still a rubbish and horrible car for the price if you ask me. I will be pleasantly surprised if the version we get here is any good. The European version will be acceptable (purely due to safety law), but I doubt we will see that version here.
I'd much rather take an Up! than the current Figo. Let's see how the new Figo does though. I don't think that just because a car is made in India means it's unsafe - some Jags and Land Rovers are made there and I'm sure they're plenty safe.
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Those Jags and la are destined for markets with laws regulating the safety systems etc, and of course they're Jag and Land Rover so they are known to be safe and built to a specific set of specs.
Its the budget end of the market where I don't trust Indian built vehicles, they're built to a budget rather than anything else.