RedViking
Nord of the South
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Different. Ramaphosa and Mantashe were never blue collar government workers post '94.Correct. Gwede Mantashe and Cyril Ramaphosa started off as trade union shop stewards. The power they wielded got them far and others see this. So no need for management qualifications at all. Shop steward is the way the workers have seen being the way to go.
Gwede and Cyril are politicians, can you tell the difference? But both did go to school and got their qualifications, not that it matters in the kind of work they are in.
Different. Ramaphosa and Mantashe were never blue collar government workers post '94.
I'm referring to senior regional leadership of the ANC working in blue collar positions of government.
Or just get your matric and be the leader of the opposition?That's what the people see. Become a shop steward and get high up on the gravy train. Much better than doing management and other courses to professionalise the public service. Be the cleaner with more power than the manager.
Ever noticed unions are dominated by communists but forbidden in communist countries?
Under apartheid government. Unions were not embedded to to government.They were unionists in the 80's already.
Both are useless.Gwede and Cyril are politicians, can you tell the difference? But both did go to school and got their qualifications, not that it matters in the kind of work they are in.
Or just get your matric and be the leader of the opposition?There's nothing wrong with it if you are that way inclined, but even Gwede and Cyril still knew they had to get their qualifications, gambling that you'll go all the way with nothing is just too much of a risk.
Under apartheid government. Unions were not embedded to to government.
They were ratepayers, which made all the difference.Neither were municipalities. Mayors and councilors were not connected to political parties and neither were they paid. It was a civil duty, not a piggy bank.
They were ratepayers, which made all the difference.
Grand plans. Great plans, often derailed by elevating and serving the party above the country.
This from 2020This is a plan through which all of us as South Africans should work together to build a new economy.
The objectives of the plan are clear:
- To create jobs, primarily through aggressive infrastructure investment and mass employment programmes;
- To reindustrialise our economy, focusing on growing small businesses;
- To accelerate economic reforms to unlock investment and growth;
- To fight crime and corruption; and,
- To improve the capability of the state.
This from 2018This will include:
- A new mandate given to the competition authorities to promote competition and eliminate monopoly control.
- Increased capital and support contributions through the black industrialists programme and the R1.5 billion small business fund established through the CEO initiative.
- Pursuing policies that support the inclusion of black people in the ownership of financial institutions.
- New changes which will see the broadening of black economic empowerment policies to promote greater worker ownership and board representation.

Worse yet. don't even finish primary school and become president, someone who wields far more power and influence.Or just get your matric and be the leader of the opposition?There's nothing wrong with it if you are that way inclined, but even Gwede and Cyril still knew they had to get their qualifications, gambling that you'll go all the way with nothing is just too much of a risk.
On a positive note, I wish.But it already is a fine efficient unbiased public service, why would they want to change something that has worked so well for so many years. The police for instance, so little crime and violence, the policemen so lean and mean and smart in their uniforms.. Need I go on..