New "Mongoose" Cricket bat said to revolutionize Cricket

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I think it could add more fun to Twenty-Twenty. I dont see it surviving normal test cricket.
 

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Next they would change the ball to a bouncing rubber ball...
Its just not cricket!
 

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Many people said pro 20 was not cricket and it's now a global phenomenon, so while the 5 day lovers have this idea of what cricket is the rest of the world want higher scores, more boundries.

Pro20 is not cricket, it's about going and smashing a ball, so if you hate the idea of this bat i am not sure why you like pro 20 but we all have our own opinions as too what cricket actually is and many 5 day lovers will tell you even the 50 over game is not cricket.
 

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Many people said pro 20 was not cricket and it's now a global phenomenon, so while the 5 day lovers have this idea of what cricket is the rest of the world want higher scores, more boundries.

Pro20 is not cricket, it's about going and smashing a ball, so if you hate the idea of this bat i am not sure why you like pro 20 but we all have our own opinions as too what cricket actually is and many 5 day lovers will tell you even the 50 over game is not cricket.

Actually the most successful teams so far in 20-20 cricket are those who play proper cricket. But the 20-20 criticism wasn't based on them changing the equipment - I believe this is a different issue completely. I love 20-20 cricket but I'd be really disappointed if they continue to try to change the game to the extent that it's not even recognisable as cricket any longer.

However maybe this is just a little mountain being made over a molehill. I guess all that has changed is the design of the bat - the bat's still being used. I guess if Gibbs and co can wear football boots then maybe the batsmen can take advanatge of better designs as well...
 

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Yea the thing is pro 20 is massive and has changed the way many people see cricket, how many people do think now watch pro 20 but dislike the 50 and 5 day game?

People want excitement, boundaries, big totals. I think if this bat can offer more of that it will be a winner.

I see what people are saying about the bat but i just feel pro 20 is not the same game as 50 and 5 day cricket and this bat will make it one of the most exciting sports on the planet. Baseball on steroids :p, not that there is anything wrong with the current pro 20 :).
 

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When are all the fielders going to be allowed to wear wicket-keeper gloves?
 

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When are all the fielders going to be allowed to wear wicket-keeper gloves?

That wont happen, its a batsmen's game apparently...
They should allow players to use steroids and other performance enhancing drugs as well!! You want excitement, youll get excitement!!


:rolleyes:
 

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I think that 20/20 is goint to eventually become the mainstream form of cricket while ODIs will move to the serious cricket nations. Test cricket is probably doomed. We used to have long test series all year round, but now these are diminishing to 2 or 3 match series with very little media attention. The IPL has shown that there's huge money in cricket in the smallest format of the game. There will come a time where tests just won't justify the TV time it takes up.

It's sad. I actually despise 20/20.
 

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I think that 20/20 is goint to eventually become the mainstream form of cricket while ODIs will move to the serious cricket nations. Test cricket is probably doomed. We used to have long test series all year round, but now these are diminishing to 2 or 3 match series with very little media attention. The IPL has shown that there's huge money in cricket in the smallest format of the game. There will come a time where tests just won't justify the TV time it takes up.

It's sad. I actually despise 20/20.

Test cricket will always be around.

It's probably domestic first class cricket that will suffer because of 20/20.
With less matches being played.

One day cricket never killed Test cricket.
 

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We used to have long test series all year round, but now these are diminishing to 2 or 3 match series with very little media attention.

Yeah, I hardly noticed when the SA/Aus tests were on recently. :rolleyes:

I think that news of test cricket's death are a little premature. I think that T20 is proving very popular, but that that popularity is filtering through to tests, rather than diminishing from tests.

I mean, it's hard to tell.

The hype around the Australian games could've been because it was Australia, because they were bloody good games, or because the world no. 1 position was up for grabs. What ever it was, i don't think test cricket is about to die out just yet.
 

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Test cricket will always be around.

It's probably domestic first class cricket that will suffer because of 20/20.
With less matches being played.

One day cricket never killed Test cricket.

Yes, this I agree with.
 

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Chis whenever SA plays Aus it's a massive thing.

I think t20 is taking a lot away from tests because maybe a many who have watched t20 will not find a 5 day utterly boring and only the 5 day hardened okes will still enjoy it.

They have a brought a glitz and glamor type thing to cricket now. One day cricket would never kill test cricket because you sometimes a one day game is as slow as a 5 day game :p, the only 5 day game i will watch is something that involves the aussies because they look to score runs fast and not block out entire days.
 

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Test cricket will always be around.

It's probably domestic first class cricket that will suffer because of 20/20.
With less matches being played.

One day cricket never killed Test cricket.

You misunderstood. Eventually money will be the decider. There is tons of money in 20/20 (the IPL auctions is testament to that). Test cricket will soon no longer justify TV airtime due to lack of viewership - the viewereship is migrating to 20/20 and new viewers are being attracted to 20/20 while Test cricket is struggling to attract sponsors. Many Test playing nations are struggling to attract sponsorships for their Test cricket already, and that's unlikey to improve unless somehow viewership from 20/20 is converted to follow Test cricket as well.

The biggest complaint about Test cricket has always been it's boring to watch.

OD cricket never killed Test cricket - it was exceptionally well managed in that regard. It was always used as a supplementary tournament to a Test series, but now with the viewership and money in 20/20, it's probably going to end up being a supplementary to 20/20 instead.
 

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You misunderstood. Eventually money will be the decider. There is tons of money in 20/20 (the IPL auctions is testament to that). Test cricket will soon no longer justify TV airtime due to lack of viewership - the viewereship is migrating to 20/20 and new viewers are being attracted to 20/20 while Test cricket is struggling to attract sponsors. Many Test playing nations are struggling to attract sponsorships for their Test cricket already, and that's unlikey to improve unless somehow viewership from 20/20 is converted to follow Test cricket as well.

The biggest complaint about Test cricket has always been it's boring to watch.

OD cricket never killed Test cricket - it was exceptionally well managed in that regard. It was always used as a supplementary tournament to a Test series, but now with the viewership and money in 20/20, it's probably going to end up being a supplementary to 20/20 instead.

It's only the WI who can't get sponsors for Test Cricket, various non cricketing reasons for that.

Not sure where u get the impression that veiwership is down because of 20/20.

If anything, 20/20 will bring new people to cricket.
 

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Alf 20 20 has brought tons of new people to cricket but these people are not going to watch that kuk boring 5 day game with run rates in high 2's :p

Seriously watching 5 day cricket when your used to pro 20 is not a peasant experience :p
 

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Yeah, I hardly noticed when the SA/Aus tests were on recently. :rolleyes:

I think that news of test cricket's death are a little premature. I think that T20 is proving very popular, but that that popularity is filtering through to tests, rather than diminishing from tests.

I mean, it's hard to tell.

The hype around the Australian games could've been because it was Australia, because they were bloody good games, or because the world no. 1 position was up for grabs. What ever it was, i don't think test cricket is about to die out just yet.
I didn't say it was going to happen soon - just that it's inevitable. The SA/Aus series was a long time coming and also over the perfect part of the season. It also appears the Aus/SA Test series here and there have been a bit of an exception. The Aus/NZ series saw an average attendance of 30% - 40% of stadium capacity. And in arguably the most vehement cricket supporters base, India, Indians have been turning out in their droves for 20/20 while Tests (even featuring Aus) have resulted in half full stadiums. The current Eng/Windies series is even worse, with most commentators describing attendance as "desperate" and "terribly poor". Perhaps it's the quality of the opposition, or that some of the stars aren't playing or even the ticket prices. Whatever it is, people are not turning out in their numbers to Test cricket that often any more.

Another thing to take into account is the cost of watching cricket - watching a test match is cheap in comparison - it costs around R25 - R75 a ticket to watch a day at a Test match in SA. A 20/20 ticket costs a lot more than that. So people are willing to pay a lot more for a 20/20 ticket.

By the way, during the Wanderes Test against Aus, Highveld was on a massive drive to get people to watch that Test. They were aiming to get 94700 people into the stadium over the 5 days. They ran competitions to that end as well. The target was not met - it was missed by 10 or so thousand if memory serves.

Test cricket won't die overnight - but I do believe its time is coming.
 
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