New nuclear power plans coming by end of August — Ramokgopa

[Hanno Labuschagne]

New nuclear power plans coming by end of August — Ramokgopa

Energy and electricity minister Kgosientsho Ramokgopa is aiming to reveal South Africa's plans for a new 2,500MW nuclear power station by the end of next month.

Ramokgopa told Sunday Times that a team was in the advanced stages of finalising the procurement structure for the new build project.

 

[Blue Shirt]

My only objection against the plan is why the limit of 2.5 GW?

I also hope that the DA presence in the gnu will limit the corruption and backhanders to no more than 20% of the project cost.

 

[tetrasect]

Ramokgopa said that the capacity could be built by Eskom, an organ of the state, or in partnership with any other juristic person – like a private business.
The procurement process would also involve a tendering procedure which is “fair, equitable, transport, competitive, and cost-effective.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[mak2000]

My only objection against the plan is why the limit of 2.5 GW?

I also hope that the DA presence in the gnu will limit the corruption and backhanders to no more than 20% of the project cost.

Must be the cost. Hope this doesnt stay a plan for the next 10 years. Meanwhile, why is Solar not being considered? Its cheaper and will be online relatively quickly.

 

[r00igev@@r]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

A copy and paste of the Tswane smart meter tender?

 

[hj007]

Lots of smaller plants rather than one mega plant. Bigger equals complexity and single points of failure...

 

[r00igev@@r]

 

[wingnut771]

ANC and their plans.

 

[Franna]

Ramokgopa said that the capacity could be built by Eskom, an organ of the state, or in partnership with any other juristic person – like a private business. The procurement process would also involve a tendering procedure which is “fair, equitable, transport, competitive, and cost-effective.”

Please just not Hitachi/ANC Ltd!!!

The ANC, Chancellor House and Hitachi: A shadowy nexus without a smoking gun

A statement from ANC treasurer general Zweli Mkhize on the stunning news that Hitachi, Ltd. had paid $19 million to settle charges by the US Securities and Exchange Commission in relation to its Eskom contracts, distanced the party from anything to do with the matter. “The organisation was not...

www.dailymaverick.co.za

And hell not the armageddon state-capture contract previously signed with Russian Rosatom by Zuma in 2014:

South Africa to build new nuclear plants. The opposition attacked the plan over alleged Russia links

The South African government has announced plans to build new nuclear power stations to generate more electricity amid an energy crisis in the continent’s most advanced economy.

apnews.com

"...worth an estimated $76 billion (R1.3 trillion) that was shrouded in secrecy and canceled by a South African court in 2017 for being illegal and unconstitutional".

Let Russia go after the comrades that have surely received bribes in advance...

 

[ProfA]

More of the same. Gnu just to pacify the sheep.

 

[leon.davibe]

Must be the cost. Hope this doesnt stay a plan for the next 10 years. Meanwhile, why is Solar not being considered? Its cheaper and will be online relatively quickly.

from what i can see the problem with going too heavy solar/wind renewables , takes away the spinning mass that helps maintain the grid at 60hz

coal/nuclear/gas with turbines spinning helps
some countries actually install flywheel systems to spin up in vacuum to retain momentum that can then be connected to the grid in load fluctuations to maintain the freq better

 

[Swa]

They can build it in the Cape. Those guys have wanted to be quarantined for a while now.

 

[Swa]

from what i can see the problem with going too heavy solar/wind renewables , takes away the spinning mass that helps maintain the grid at 60hz

coal/nuclear/gas with turbines spinning helps
some countries actually install flywheel systems to spin up in vacuum to retain momentum that can then be connected to the grid in load fluctuations to maintain the freq better

Those sync electronically. It's all just a matter of how accurate your equipment is.

 

[chrisc]

Flywheel systems were in use from the 1940s

All generation systems synchronise electronically. Its much more efficient and there is no insertion loss

 

[Franna]

from what i can see the problem with going too heavy solar/wind renewables , takes away the spinning mass that helps maintain the grid at 60hz

coal/nuclear/gas with turbines spinning helps
some countries actually install flywheel systems to spin up in vacuum to retain momentum that can then be connected to the grid in load fluctuations to maintain the freq better

50 Hz and not 60 Hz like in USA. Very informative thanks. Also remember a big data centre in California (1998) that used to turn flywheels/generators with grid electricity to supply a stable clean AC output.

 

[wingnut771]

50 Hz and not 60 Hz like in USA. Very informative thanks. Also remember a big data centre in California (1998) that used to turn flywheels/generators with grid electricity to supply a stable clean AC output.

Yes, Australia has installed a flywheel.

 

[system32]

My only objection against the plan is why the limit of 2.5 GW?

I also hope that the DA presence in the gnu will limit the corruption and backhanders to no more than 20% of the project cost.

My requirement is that it's IPP.
at competitive R/kWh for energy.

If it's IPP, that takes risks off taxpayers of overrun costs.

In terms of 20% backhanders, this is low. Medup was budgeted at R80b and 4 years, it's went over to R243b and years late. (Same for Kusuli)

 

[wingnut771]

My requirement is that it's IPP.
at competitive R/kWh for energy.

If it's IPP, that takes risks off taxpayers of overrun costs.

In terms of 20% backhanders, this is low. Medup was budgeted at R80b and 4 years, it's went over to R243b and years late. (Same for Kusuli)

There's a problem with this. Solar/Battery is cheaper already and getting cheaper and cheaper, and doesn't takes decades to build. I wish this IPP all the best.

 

[tetrasect]

There's a problem with this. Solar/Battery is cheaper already and getting cheaper and cheaper, and doesn't takes decades to build. I wish this IPP all the best.

Just imagine what the solar and battery prices will be in 10 years time. That nuclear power plant unveiling will be like unveiling an incandescent light-bulb factory.

 

[leon.davibe]

Just imagine what the solar and battery prices will be in 10 years time. That nuclear power plant unveiling will be like unveiling an incandescent light-bulb factory.

it will be needed to add stability and cleaner vs coal coal