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Progenix Oj101
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I guess we'll never know. I've tried for 3 years to link you to an order
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For the cool kids:
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AMD X870 motherboards listed overseas start at $350 — premium X870E models may retail close to $800
Are you ready to pay top-dollar for AMD X870 motherboards?
A $50 increase at entry would be a bit insane. Check the table in the link. It has long been speculated that the AM5 800 series would be expensive. I hope that these numbers are inaccurate.
I guess it is best to explore the AM5 600 series options, which are still available.
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The 7600X3D bundle is gonna be hard to beat...
AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D, ASUS TUF Gaming B650 Plus WiFi, G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB DDR5-6000 Kit, Computer Build Bundle - Micro Center
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The 7600X3D bundle is gonna be hard to beat...
AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D, ASUS TUF Gaming B650 Plus WiFi, G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB DDR5-6000 Kit, Computer Build Bundle - Micro Center
Get it now! Find over 30,000 products at your local Micro Center, including the AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D, ASUS TUF Gaming B650 Plus WiFi, G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB DDR5-6000 Kit, Computer Build Bundlewww.microcenter.com
Sadly we don't have that here. The 7600X3D must be available in limited quantities. Currently, only exclusively available to a single retailer in the US and Germany. Technically, though expensive, the 7800X3D is not that badly priced. It is the AM5 motherboards which are not as well priced as the comparative Intel boards.
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AMD X870 motherboards listed overseas start at $350 — premium X870E models may retail close to $800
Are you ready to pay top-dollar for AMD X870 motherboards?www.tomshardware.com
A $50 increase at entry would be a bit insane. Check the table in the link. It has long been speculated that the AM5 800 series would be expensive. I hope that these numbers are inaccurate.
I guess it is best to explore the AM5 600 series options, which are still available.
There's also 850 (which will come along later so the vendors and AMD can milk consumers with no patience)...the 70 series has always had poor ROI, never found they offered anything for the premium.
850 will also be inflated but should be comparable to 670 price-wise?
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Yeah we won't see that here. Same as the 5600X3D. Though it's still a great deal even with shipping and taxes added. That's if Microcenter doesn't limit this to in-store only...
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One per household and collection only according to the product page.
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GTX 4070 Super looks like the best price/performace for now according to the guy at Wootware.
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can always borrow your neighbors camera power supply. Yes, i fell alot when i was a child.This is the setup that I would choose For R26,223. It will will last you a decade or more.
I'm assuming that you already have a 600-650W PSU, 4K Monitor, Case, Mouse/Keyboard and SSD.
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A 4060 Ti lasting a decade or more? The GTX 760 is hardly a capable card even for casual gaming these days, and it today is about what the RTX 4060 Ti will be ten years from now. There isn't a card available today, not even the RTX 4090, which will be worthy for a gaming PC ten years from now, unless you play on playing what will then be considered older games, or aim for low resolution and detail settings and don't mind dips below 60 FPS.
Why a 14600K? LGA1700 is a dead platform. The 7800X3D is is far better value for money, plus has an upgrade path. I wouldn't really go for either given the budget - I'd put less into the CPU and more into the GPU, ESPECIALLY if "4080p" is meant to be 4K.
Then I'd swap the 4060 Ti for a 7900 GRE. If 4080p was meant to be 1080p, the 7900 GRE is about 50% faster than the 4060 Ti. If 4080p was meant to be 4K, the 7900 GRE is nearly twice the speed.
I'd rather go for something like this:
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Why are people recommending Intel in 2024 for a gaming PC? Makes no sense. Not even one.
For productivity there may be an argument. But even then, recommending 13th and 14th-gen, given their issues? Madness.
For productivity there may be an argument. But even then, recommending 13th and 14th-gen, given their issues? Madness.
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Microcenter made a review video for the 7600X3D:
Unless you absolutely need WIFI 7 or USB 4. There is zero benefit to AMD 8xx. the chipsets are identical to 6xx (Promontory 21).
There are already X670 Boards that offer USB 4 anyway and as it requires 4 PCIE lanes, you have to give up something. An X16 Gen 5 graphics card and 2 Gen 5 (X4) NVME SSDs is impossible on X870 boards due to compulsory USB 4 because of bandwidth sharing and this is not the case on certain X670E boards.
Fulcrum29
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I remember when WiFi 6 rolled out, and people were in the opinion that nobody needed it. AMD peeps said the same about RTX, some still do even though they cheat on AMD by buying Nvidia, but hey, people are people, they like their DLSS. The chipsets may be identical, and though neither USB 4* nor WiFi 7 being a mainstream necessity, AM5 800 will be AMD's new ecosystem. Do expect them to add QoL and new CPU/memory optimisation and tweaking support not available on 670E. 870 is a waste though since it is a cut-down 670 unless the brand adds some bells and whistles (incl. USB 4) which many won’t use at this time. For users already on an AM 600 series board, they don’t need to upgrade. For new AM5 users, the 800 series is worth considering.
For users on the AM5 600 series who wish to have USB 4 and WiFi 7, they do have the option to acquire PCIe expansion cards.
*USB 4 includes all the spec (including Thunderbolt), it allows versatility. PCIe Gen 5 with 24 lanes direct to the CPU, and USB 4 being dual lane, considering that it is on-board. Personally I don't know who needs 2 x Gen 5 NVMe since it is not exactly cheap, but I assume that some (inter)connections will be disabled when those lanes are in use and where USB 4 does not need all the lanes all the time. I don't know, I have seen the specs, but I haven't seen it in use. Just see the I/O on the X870E Godlike:
I am certain that it will be a +R20 000 board. Time will tell. Very niche in any case, but people who are able to buy that board are likely to also buy more than one Gen 5 NVMe.
I don’t expect the 600 series boards to go on a mass sale other than the ordinary price reductions already experienced throughout its supply cycle.
All I want to do is to buy a new workstation, not a gaming PC. I will evaluate everything, and price takes priority.
Zen 6 will be a big departure going by rumours, and AMD will be looking to replace AGESA with openSIL. AFAIK, Zen 4 and 5 haven't undergone openSIL validation and QA. AMD had a roadmap some days ago.
Most people who want to buy should wait until the 850/E boards release which will be likely next year. Just wait and see how AMD dangles some Zen 5 price reductions over Christmastime.
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So...
Like the good old Vega days.
Like the good old Vega days.
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Ok, the 870 looks better at the low-mid end:
www.club386.com
As pointed out, it is better to take a 670/E over an 870 when available. Not quite the same with the 870E.
For the price, nice:
X870 Aorus Elite WiFi 7
www.gigabyte.com
TUF Gaming X870-Plus WiFi
www.asus.com
I would consider that Gigabyte board. The TUF seem to have a premium which is not worth considering. The Aorus has better VRM, a better layout, heatsinks look more compatible with air coolers. The I/O is not as good as on the TUF, but the price looks good.
Also, no SPDIF/out on the TUF. @Progenix Oj101 when?
AMD X870 motherboards land later this month starting at £200 | Club386
Asus and Gigabyte X870 and X870E motherboard prices revealed, starting from £200 and reaching £473 on the best models.
www.club386.com
As pointed out, it is better to take a 670/E over an 870 when available. Not quite the same with the 870E.
For the price, nice:
X870 Aorus Elite WiFi 7
X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 Key Features | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global
Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ...
TUF Gaming X870-Plus WiFi
TUF GAMING X870-PLUS WIFI｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global
ASUS TUF GAMING X870-PLUS WIFI is an Advanced AI PC ready ATX motherboard with 16+2+1 power stages, DDR5, PCIe 5.0 Ready, four M.2 slots, Wi-Fi 7, Realtek 2.5Gb Ethernet, USB4® (40Gbps) Type-C®, BIOS
www.asus.com
I would consider that Gigabyte board. The TUF seem to have a premium which is not worth considering. The Aorus has better VRM, a better layout, heatsinks look more compatible with air coolers. The I/O is not as good as on the TUF, but the price looks good.
Also, no SPDIF/out on the TUF. @Progenix Oj101 when?