New water restriction tariffs hit Cape Town: what you need to know

[f2wohf]

I said this before - but follow the money. WHO is getting the contracts? What relationship do they have with anyone on the council? De Lille's sister was given the contract for the water regulation device things but when I said that it was a nice bit of cash for someone installing them I was jumped on - it IS a nice bit of cash for De Lille's sister!!! Now tell me again how there isn't a *****-ton of corruption/nepotism involved in all of this. I know this isn't helpful to the issues at hand, but the issues at hand are in part caused by this kind of cr@p.

Grahamtek clearly aren't related to anyone important hence getting kicked in the teeth. The money has to flow into the right pockets. Don't you know how it works in SA?

Grahamtek (unlike Veolia, Tahal and many other companies) has (as far as I know and can find on their website) absolutely no track record, no plant installed that is working. This in addition of having no funding capability whatsoever (it’s not like COCT can throw 5 billions overnight at it).

They’ve promoted it to PSG and COCT, that’s it, that’s all you can find on it and it sounds more like a scam than anything else.

When you take Veolia or Tahal, they’ll fund it, operate it and maintain it which is way easier for a municipality, allows to have it off balance sheet (hence not crippling COCT’s borrowing capabilities) and derisk it.

 

[Rouxenator]

Had a lovely ride around the Berg River dam today, water level looks more or less the same as last year. Quite nice to be up in the mountains there, plenty of mud. Something we don't see that often anymore.

Anyways, this whole water thing is blown out of perspective. But I am sure someone will soon reply telling me Berg River is so small that Cape Town will deplete it in like 8 hours or something.

(Not my pic)

 

[genetic]

But I am sure someone will soon reply telling me Berg River is so small that Cape Town will deplete it in like 8 hours or something.

Unfortunately Roux, it takes a lot more brain power to realise that the drought surrounding the western parts of the country is bigger than one or two dams.

 

[Gordon_R]

Anyways, this whole water thing is blown out of perspective. But I am sure someone will soon reply telling me Berg River is so small that Cape Town will deplete it in like 8 hours or something.

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Nice pic! The Berg River dam will soon be depleted, since it is a third of the size of Theewaterskloof. You are right in one respect though, it will not be as early as the predicted Day Zero (12 April). The exact date depends on a number of factors. Best estimates are here: https://showme.co.za/paarl/lifestyle/nature-outdoors/dams-latest-levels-winelands-and-cape-town-86/

 

[daveza]

Berg River dam - 54%

 

[Gordon_R]

Berg River dam - 54%

http://resource.capetown.gov.za/doc...ity research reports and review/damlevels.pdf

Berg River Dam CAPACITY 130010 Ml 55.0% at 22 January 2018

If it were supplying only the CoCT at 600Ml per day (down to 10% capacity), that would be sufficient for the next 90 days.

There are other (smaller) dams, and other consumers, but that is a ball-park guesstimate of how long till Day Zero...

 

[Aghori]

And on a related topic, Helen Zille now only showers once every 3 days. I can imagine her armpits roght about now in this heat...

https://www.journalducameroun.com/en/water-the-new-gold-in-parched-cape-town/

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Had a lovely ride around the Berg River dam today, water level looks more or less the same as last year. Quite nice to be up in the mountains there, plenty of mud. Something we don't see that often anymore.

Anyways, this whole water thing is blown out of perspective. But I am sure someone will soon reply telling me Berg River is so small that Cape Town will deplete it in like 8 hours or something.

The Berg River is one of the fuller dams IIRC. If only Theewaterskloof and Voelvlei was as full as the Berg river, we wouldn't be having this crisis on our hands.

 

[R13...]

And on a related topic, Helen Zille now only showers once every 3 days. I can imagine her armpits roght about now in this heat...

https://www.journalducameroun.com/en/water-the-new-gold-in-parched-cape-town/

You don't need to shower to clean the parts of you that are on the stinky side.

 

[Gordon_R]

The Berg River is one of the fuller dams IIRC. If only Theewaterskloof and Voelvlei was as full as the Berg river, we wouldn't be having this crisis on our hands.

There is a big difference between the capacity, inflow, evaporation, and useful storage of each of the major dams. The WCWSS tries to juggle all of these: http://www.dwa.gov.za/Documents/Policies/DroughtGuideVol2Oct06Ana.pdf

In particular, Theewaterskloof is large and shallow, and has limited inflow, so it is a 'reserve' for the Berg River dam, which is medium size, deep, and has high inflow. That is why they are connected by a tunnel, and why Theewaterskloof is always emptied first.

 

[vaakseun]

And on a related topic, Helen Zille now only showers once every 3 days. I can imagine her armpits roght about now in this heat.../[/url]

It helps to get those long-winded committee meetings wrapped-up quickly. When you're stuck in a room with people like Zille and me who only shower twice a week you'll find that things get done very quickly and efficiently.

 

[Rouxenator]

Yeah. As I expected.

Berg River will be at 55% or more again with the 2019 ride.

Only then it will be under the banner of a massive victory for the DA with avoiding day zero.

Jinne manne, you really need to get out more. The media is poisoning your minds. This is just standard climate trends, only with more political game behind it.

 

[Ivork]

The really sad part is Agriculture. The West Coast is DRY!
Some farmers I have heard are selling equipment to survive.
We here in the Cape have options, many up the West Coast don't.

Ja I was camping in Lebanon, Clanwilliam (about 10km up the dam) in December and the water was already round the corner. They keep letting it out to Bulshoek and from there it goes out to the farmers. But there will be bugger all left in a few weeks.....

 

[Zoomzoom]

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...up-capewatergate-city-answers-your-questions/

This forms part of the comprehensive operational plan that the City is developing. Highly experienced and qualified engineers are working hard at putting measures in place that will ensure the system continues functioning as far as possible in the event of Day Zero occurring, to safeguard both public health and the infrastructure.[/url]

IS developing? Okaaaayyyyyy now the truth comes out. There was no plan. Now there might be a plan. It might even be a 'comprehensive plan' if we are REALLY REALLY REALLY lucky.

 

[Archer]

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...up-capewatergate-city-answers-your-questions/

IS developing? Okaaaayyyyyy now the truth comes out. There was no plan. Now there might be a plan. It might even be a 'comprehensive plan' if we are REALLY REALLY REALLY lucky.

You really are an expert at twisting things to suit your agenda. In a scenario like this you never stop developing the plan, there is always more to be done. You have no farking clue how far along their plan may be, and yet jump to ludicrous claims like the above. I doubt there is a suitable rolleyes smiley in existence to express what I'm thinking

 

[Geoff.D]

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...up-capewatergate-city-answers-your-questions/



IS developing? Okaaaayyyyyy now the truth comes out. There was no plan. Now there might be a plan. It might even be a 'comprehensive plan' if we are REALLY REALLY REALLY lucky.

Absolute rubbish! You are so blinded by your apparent hatred for the DA, that you fail to read things properly anymore. Any logical person can see that what is meant by this statement is that the plans exist and are continually under review.

 

[theratman]

Absolute rubbish! You are so blinded by your apparent hatred for the DA, that you fail to read things properly anymore. Any logical person can see that what is meant by this statement is that the plans exist and are continually under review.

It's pretty obvious to all that the DA have been terrible in their handling of the crisis. However this article is a good step in the right direction, even if it's months too late it's aleast showing that they've woken up to the crisis.

On a side note JP Smith is a major d00s and I can't wait until we see the back of him.

 

[Geoff.D]

It's pretty obvious to all that the DA have been terrible in their handling of the crisis. However this article is a good step in the right direction, even if it's months too late it's aleast showing that they've woken up to the crisis.

On a side note JP Smith is a major d00s and I can't wait until we see the back of him.

I would agree IF you change the reference to the DA to the politicians. The rot set in when the ANC took over and removed professionalism out of public administration. THAT is when logic went out of the window leading to the gradual but inevitable erosion of infrastructure everywhere.

 

[theratman]

I would agree IF you change the reference to the DA to the politicians. The rot set in when the ANC took over and removed professionalism out of public administration. THAT is when logic went out of the window leading to the gradual but inevitable erosion of infrastructure everywhere.

Happy to do so.

 

[daveza]

Day Zero Plans announced

http://resource.capetown.gov.za/cityassets/Media%20Centre%20Assets/Day%20Zero%20Disaster%20Plan%20FAQs.pdf