New water restriction tariffs hit Cape Town: what you need to know

[Rouxenator]

So I take it you have stockpiles of bottle caps p), weapons, fuel, canned foods, two way radios, batteries, etc? Or just some extra water?

It's called being paranoid. Fear is the mind killer.

 

[rietrot]

So I take it you have stockpiles of bottle caps p), weapons, fuel, canned foods, two way radios, batteries, etc? Or just some extra water?

I have supplies for about a month. After that most unprepared/unsaveable people will be dead and the world will be completely changed. Seeing as we plant enough food for everyone on a yearly cycle(most grains and such) There will an abundance after that.

 

[Shi]

Yes it is Kenilworth Racecourse. I have lived in the area for 30 years, and would not have responded if I thought otherwise.

Thanks for clarifying, it has been a while since I have been there.

 

[xrapidx]

we have the 13kg so its three washes. dark, lights and whites. i need to get my hands on some wheelie bins. these can take the outflow without changing containers. that's exhausting.

any suggestions on a little pump? just from the bottom of the bin back into the machine. 1.5m max of travel distance upwards.

Haven't really looked into pumps - but going to soon - so will update on what I find.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Well I'm not planning on hording 5L bottles - don't see the point.

Although the over 500% increase in water tariff in Feb is pushing me to remove myself from the municipal supply of water - and then just hope my well-point lasts till we get a bit of rain.

Well even if by some miracle we avoid Day Zero, it's not like I will NOT use the 5L bottles. Unlike say a generator, I can still use the 5L bottles even if the taps don't run dry.

 

[daveza]

The taps CANNOT run dry.

I presume you are saying they cannot be allowed to run dry ?

If there's no rain, empty dams and no alternative source of water, how do they not run dry ?

 

[Zoomzoom]

After this we need to recycle the bottles into low-cost housing. Pretty sure there are going to be several tons of plastic floating around after this.

 

[RedViking]

After this we need to recycle the bottles into low-cost housing. Pretty sure there are going to be several tons of plastic floating around after this.

Maybe just fill them with sand......

 

[Rouxenator]

I presume you are saying they cannot be allowed to run dry ?

If there's no rain, empty dams and no alternative source of water, how do they not run dry ?

Have you actually gone outside and looked for yourself? Do you really trust the figures they provide the public with regards to consumption and available water resources?
It is very easy to sit there and believe everything they feed you. It is a lot harder to figure out what is actually going on.

Empty dams - which ones are you referring to and how long to you think it will take?
No rain - if that happens it would be an absolute freak incident. There has never in recorded history been a year of no rain in the Cape.
No alternative sources - so that excludes the Cape because there is plenty of alternative sources.

If they turn off the taps the sewerage system stops and people will have to abandon the affect areas. So they cannot let that happen, and they know it. Much easier to avoid it through whatever means necessary and then also claim a victory.

 

[Enzo Matrix]

The taps CANNOT run dry. The disaster that will follow is something that is near impossible to undo. That is the first thing you need to understand.

Knowing that and the fact that these last few years have, without a doubt, been very dry and we do have water crisis what is the best course of action to take? Reduce consumption. Best way of doing this is by playing on peoples fear. If you believe that come April the taps are turned off and you have to queue for water you WILL use less.

Apart from the physical nature of the situation (lack of water) there is also the massive political gains sitting behind it. They let this happen so they can make money, both from increased water tariffs as well as the private sector making a buck from it. Probably the biggest political gain will be when "day zero" is avoided. They will look like heroes for pulling off such an amazing feat. People will forget the cause of all if this.

People are easy to manipulate or fall into a trend. Look at how many people got into soccer when the 2010 world cup was here, people that had no interest in soccer before or after that. Now all the rage is this impending no water thing, so everyone is on that bandwagon.

But ja, folks don't like to think, easier to be led and not get out and see for yourself. Don't have your own opinion because then you clearly have a tinfoil hat on.

I have no words to describe how closed minded your views are.

I am not saying i know the exact situation. I am not saying we will run dry or wont run dry. But to have a view like yours is simply astounding. If there is no water to feed the pipes there is no water. Its not political or greed, its supply and demand. Im not sure what miracle you think they will "pull off" as you say but i hope Cape Townians have there plans in place. Its gonna become a disaster area

 

[daveza]

Empty dams - which ones are you referring to and how long to you think it will take?

All that supply the City - within 3 months

No rain - if that happens it would be an absolute freak incident. There has never in recorded history been a year of no rain in the Cape.

Not no rain, insufficient rain.

No alternative sources - so that excludes the Cape because there is plenty of alternative sources.

Not enough to supply the demand.

There is only one way we avoid day zero, huge amounts of rain over a long period.

And we haven't had that for a very long time.

 

[Nerfherder]

The taps CANNOT run dry. The disaster that will follow is something that is near impossible to undo. That is the first thing you need to understand.

Knowing that and the fact that these last few years have, without a doubt, been very dry and we do have water crisis what is the best course of action to take? Reduce consumption. Best way of doing this is by playing on peoples fear. If you believe that come April the taps are turned off and you have to queue for water you WILL use less.

Apart from the physical nature of the situation (lack of water) there is also the massive political gains sitting behind it. They let this happen so they can make money, both from increased water tariffs as well as the private sector making a buck from it. Probably the biggest political gain will be when "day zero" is avoided. They will look like heroes for pulling off such an amazing feat. People will forget the cause of all if this.

People are easy to manipulate or fall into a trend. Look at how many people got into soccer when the 2010 world cup was here, people that had no interest in soccer before or after that. Now all the rage is this impending no water thing, so everyone is on that bandwagon.

But ja, folks don't like to think, easier to be led and not get out and see for yourself. Don't have your own opinion because then you clearly have a tinfoil hat on.

They totally can run dry - that said i don't believe they will let them run dry.

I'm not going to hoard 100's of 5l bottles but you should always be prepared for disaster. Especially when the indication is that we will have periods of no water, even if its for a day.
If you lived in Florida and they had a cyclone warning on tv, would you go and get bottled water or sit it out ?

There is a balance between being prepared and apocalypse prepping.

 

[ld13]

Have you actually gone outside and looked for yourself?

Stellenbosch is green, hey?

 

[Rouxenator]

I have no words to describe how closed minded your views are.

Obviously my views will seem closed mined to people whom I consider have a close minded view created mostly on what they are fed through media, it is something I accept.

My question to people like that, who buy into this whole mass hysteria, is have you really given it some thought? All aspects of the situation.

Firstly, to how many of the big dams have you been? What about smaller ones on private properties? How many of the rivers have you seen that has run dry? Do you honestly believe we will get no rain? How do you see sanitation in areas with no water? How long do you think people will be able to live in those areas? I'm not even going to bring up the water collection points myth, because if you take some time to think about all the logistics around it you will realise it is impossible.

It's easy to accept what you are being told and just make peace with it. It's takes a bit more time and effort to realise what will actually happen if what you accept and made peace with does happen.

... Not enough to supply the demand. There is only one way we avoid day zero, huge amounts of rain over a long period....

Precisely - the demand. If you curb that then you don't need huge amounts of rain over a long period of time. Which is exactly what they are doing, best way to do that is to tell people when you will cut their supply.

In all honesty I hope we do get lots of rain, and people should save best they can. But you need to be realistic.

 

[daveza]

Precisely - the demand. If you curb that then you don't need huge amounts of rain over a long period of time

And how has that worked so far ?

 

[ld13]

I'm not even going to bring up the water collection points myth, because if you take some time to think about all the logistics around it you will realise it is impossible.

I thought the same. But the official plans indicate that they will be fed from the mainline and not with trucks. That killed half the problems. What other logistics bother you?

 

[rietrot]

Precisely - the demand. If you curb that then you don't need huge amounts of rain over a long period of time. Which is exactly what they are doing, best way to do that is to tell people when you will cut their supply.

In all honesty I hope we do get lots of rain, and people should save best they can. But you need to be realistic.

Murphy: whatever can go wrong will go wrong.

Not necessarily every time, but once or twice during our lifetime the shît will really hit the fan.
It is understandable that you don't seem to have the same level of panic than city people. You get out enough and know the countryside and the natural water sources. This increases your chances greatly should the taps run dry.

People that stay in the city don't have this. I mean some people are scared of drinking rain water because the roof it fell on might of had some dust on it. If you only know tap water this is a very real crisis and People will panic even more the closer we get.

 

[Rouxenator]

And how has that worked so far ?

Much better than we have been led to believe. Because they need to keep the pressure on. If they tell people that their consumption is good and below the limit what do you think will happen?

 

[xrapidx]

Pretty much why we still have this problem :crylaugh:

 

[rietrot]

Pretty much why we still have this problem :crylaugh:

That's pretty dishonest pretending the ANC cares about the poor and that the DA is capitalists.