Nextgennews.net down and out

[TheMightyQuinn]

Ye a bit difficult to tell then. Fine for ADSL but when you have 50Mbps+ fibre it's slow compared to a dedicated provider.

Fast enough for me. I don't care what happens between 12am and 6am. How fast do I really have to download a movie or an episode?

 

[StrontiumDog]

Thanks MightyQuinn!

Sent him a tweet. Will see if there is a response.

From Twitter, maybe indicative of his problems?

Chris Knipe @KnipeChris Jan 11

How long must one wait for a damn ATM to be loaded with cash? Each time I try to withdraw money, it says "insufficient funds"

 

[Dan C]

Thanks MightyQuinn!



From Twitter, maybe indicative of his problems?

hahaha, that's a funny line. I also have that problem

 

[josephzwarts]

I paid using Paypal seeing if i can get a refund!

 

[JV_011_]

NextGenNews

So, nextgennews just disappeared into thin air. domain is up for sale and my downloads are no longer working. Any idea on whats happening here ?

 

[Mephisto_Helix]

No one knows for sure but atm, it looks like a took the money and bolted situation. Not helping his cause by being silent.

 

[mercurial]

Wow. That sucks. To think quite a few of our members here signed up especially because it was another member whose business it was.

Swak.

 

[Joka69]

Just found this on 1 of the places where i read my "news"

[12:46:05] ***** : Logged a refund request with payfast, since I bought a 6 month sub end of Dec.
[12:46:26] ***** : Good day ****, Please find merchants response below: Hi, The client did not purchase a product that can be delivered, but rather subscribed to a best-effort service. The service, has been delivered and has been used by the buyer. Here s the cl
[12:48:26] ****: ient s usage details, from the 19th of December onwards, which clearly indicates that 1) the service has been delivered, and 2) the service has been used by the buyer
[12:48:45] ****: Then there is soms logs proving I lgged on at least knce
[12:49:39] ****: But ja. Seems like it has been confirmed that Savage ran off with the money.

 

[mercurial]

Wow. That is indeed savage. No one took a hint from his username?

 

[acp]

Looks like it's over and out for NGN...

So, which block account is the flavour of the week?
Reviews and top-10 lists are not exactly aligned with every list rating a different bunch of servers altogether...

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

No one knows for sure but atm, it looks like a took the money and bolted situation. Not helping his cause by being silent.

That seems very strange though seeing as he still seems to be running an active ISP (OpticNetworks).

I think we'll get a response from him at some point with some sad story about personal issues.

 

[cavedog]

Yeah looks like NGN is gone and my block account too. I had backups from free-usenet which seem reasonably priced. When they run double data promo which recently ended though.

Sad part is Savage is not saying anything.

https://mybroadband.co.za/vb/member.php/5358-savage

He is viewing this thread. Would be nice if he just came and said sorry guys you know NGN did not make any money and was running at a loss and he could not carry the burden anymore so he shut it down...

 

[savage]

Effective the 1st of Jan 2018, NGN has been sold due to pressure from bigger players in the market. It looks like the purchaser pulled the plug on the brand.

As to what happened to NGN, I am unfortunately bound by non-disclosure. All I can say, is with Astraweb now being owned by HighWinds, Usenet is pretty much becoming one big fat monopoly. Hybrid providers (like NGN was), is seen as the sworn enemy.

As to the rest of the comments that's been made and posted... You're welcome to form your own opinions I suppose. I am not going to be drawn into a public debate as to what did and did not happen. The simple fact is, I can not talk about it.

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

Effective the 1st of Jan 2018, NGN has been sold due to pressure from bigger players in the market. It looks like the purchaser pulled the plug on the brand.

As to what happened to NGN, I am unfortunately bound by non-disclosure. All I can say, is with Astraweb now being owned by HighWinds, Usenet is pretty much becoming one big fat monopoly. Hybrid providers (like NGN was), is seen as the sworn enemy.

As to the rest of the comments that's been made and posted... You're welcome to form your own opinions I suppose. I am not going to be drawn into a public debate as to what did and did not happen. The simple fact is, I can not talk about it.

You could have mentioned that you no longer own it when it was sold. Then you wouldn't have had "opinions" form in these threads.

 

[Tinuva]

Effective the 1st of Jan 2018, NGN has been sold due to pressure from bigger players in the market. It looks like the purchaser pulled the plug on the brand.

As to what happened to NGN, I am unfortunately bound by non-disclosure. All I can say, is with Astraweb now being owned by HighWinds, Usenet is pretty much becoming one big fat monopoly. Hybrid providers (like NGN was), is seen as the sworn enemy.

As to the rest of the comments that's been made and posted... You're welcome to form your own opinions I suppose. I am not going to be drawn into a public debate as to what did and did not happen. The simple fact is, I can not talk about it.

Thank you for the explanation.

Are you allowed to tell us, who the upstream providers were of NGN? I am assuming not, but would be awesome for my own choice to be made of who to use next. Purely based on the fact that NGN had great hits with articles where other providers missed the same articles.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Effective the 1st of Jan 2018, NGN has been sold due to pressure from bigger players in the market. It looks like the purchaser pulled the plug on the brand.

As to what happened to NGN, I am unfortunately bound by non-disclosure. All I can say, is with Astraweb now being owned by HighWinds, Usenet is pretty much becoming one big fat monopoly. Hybrid providers (like NGN was), is seen as the sworn enemy.

As to the rest of the comments that's been made and posted... You're welcome to form your own opinions I suppose. I am not going to be drawn into a public debate as to what did and did not happen. The simple fact is, I can not talk about it.

So you sold it to "someone else", pocketed the money and fuk all of your clients? Why do you not refund everybody with the money you got?

Bullschit cop out. Shame on you. Scumbag.

 

[furpile]

There is another thread here with an answer. He sold it end of last year and the new owner shut it down. He is not giving any more info, and said it was due to pressure from bigger players in the market.

 

[furpile]

https://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=539047

 

[Cartman13]

Not a cool move.

Good luck to him with those public FB and Twitter accounts. lol

Could've atleast told us long ago about the sale.

 

[PsyWulf]

Willfully allowing Account topups/block account purchases and pulling the plug on Premium accounts and Crystalweb (which I assume a commercial agreement was signed with) during the period where you were actively engaging in sales talks is misrepresentation (somewhere between Fraudulent and Negligent),and you likely could be held responsible in a direct capacity NDA or no

Add to that nothing specific against refunds were mentioned except for Anonymous Accounts implies guarantees,which you have refunded for loss of access in the past in this exact thread so a precedent has been set

Also wondering if the fact that money has been paid for service would fall under the CPA act for prepaid services

http://www.polity.org.za/article/gi...ions-to-be-regulated-under-the-cpa-2011-03-30

Savahl says the CPA effectively legislates a minimum validity period of three years in respect of prepaid devices – a prepaid device will not expire until the full value thereof is redeemed or a date three years after the date of issue, whichever is the earlier. Suppliers can however agree to extend this validity period at any time.
The Act then goes on to say that, "[a]ny consideration paid by a consumer to a supplier in exchange for a prepaid certificate, card, credit, voucher or similar device... is the property of the bearer of that certificate, card, credit, voucher or similar device to the extent that the supplier has not redeemed it in exchange for goods or services, or future access to services."
This provision does not mention the minimum expiry date and creates some uncertainty regarding the meaning and effect of the expiry of the prepaid device after three years. Savahl argues that the wording of this provision creates a strong argument that a bearer of a prepaid device – who may not be the original purchaser thereof - will be able to demand cash for the unredeemed value of a prepaid device, even after it has passed the three-year expiry date.
Savahl explains, “The CPA stops short of explicitly stating that the bearer has a right to demand payment in cash for the remaining value of the prepaid device after its expiry, but it appears to be the only logical conclusion flowing from the provision stating that the bearer of a prepaid devices remains the owner of the consideration paid for the prepaid device and not redeemed. She adds further that the operation of prescription in the ordinary course (i.e. a three year period to claim) does not remedy this potential problem as the date that a bearer (as opposed to the purchaser) becomes aware of the claim under the prepaid device may not be the date that the prepaid device is issued, and this would obviously interrupt prescription.
The CPA goes further to legislate an obligation on the supplier to hold and account for a consumer's property (consideration paid for the pre-paid device would qualify here). Savahl says that suppliers must exercise due care, diligence and skill in dealing with the consideration paid for pre-paid devices and must make provision for contingencies in respect of these amounts in their accounts. In so doing suppliers must bear in mind that based on the provisions of the CPA, the right to claim against the unredeemed value of a prepaid device probably does not die after three years.
Currently many suppliers do issue prepaid devices of indefinite validity, but for those who do not these provisions may create some practical challenges and these suppliers may have to reconsider and adjust their business and accounting practices accordingly, in order to provide for these contingencies” Savahl adds.

http://www.legal-aid.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/YOUR_RIGHTS-THE_CONSUMER_PROTECTION_ACT.pdf

Complaint: You prepaid for a service or product but the voucher has expired in
less than 3 years
Example: You bought air time and the voucher does not activate after 3 months.
If you have bought the expired voucher in the last 3 years and never
activated it, you can:
Insist on getting a new voucher free of charge; or
Insist on getting your money back.
If the company does not want to refund you or give you a new voucher, you
can:
Complain at the Provincial Consumer Affairs Office (see below on page 23) for
violating section 63 of the Consumer Protection Act.

Now i'm not a client so i'm not coming at this from the side of an angry paying customer,just looking at it logically