Nigeria police say over 300 'abused' students freed from Islamic school

TysonRoux

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No need for citation, I'll take it for truth. Good point also

There is a marked difference between the Muslims in the west and their brothers n sisters from the so-called Muslim countries. Obviously this has to do with the law of the land. Yet if you had to ask a South African Muslim, say in your place of work, what his/her opinion is about your Pakistan example...What do you think they would say?
I'm not convinced of that.

Look at the UK and the US, they've both suffered terrorist attacks on innocent civilians by their own muslim citizens.

I spent quite some time working in Indonesia, which myself and most others would consider "moderate" muslims, but then remember the Bali bombing targeting westerners, and one of the masterminds was a muslim cleric, who only got a two year sentence.
 

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I'm not convinced of that.

Look at the UK and the US, they've both suffered terrorist attacks on innocent civilians by their own muslim citizens.

I spent quite some time working in Indonesia, which myself and most others would consider "moderate" muslims, but then remember the Bali bombing targeting westerners, and one of the masterminds was a muslim cleric, who only got a two year sentence.
You are talking about some individuals who had to be radicalized at some point. Hold on, let's have a look

Current stats show from 2017 there were 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. The consensus out there from all intelligence sources is that between 15 and 25% are radical. Let's call it 25%- this gives us 450million Muslims - Holy ****!!
Ok, 15% gives us 270 million!! 270million individuals willing to wear an explosive backpack??
 

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If you want to attack these crazy cult type outlets go ahead I won't stop you but don't lump me and the other 95% of Muslims with these nutters because that is an unnecessary attack on us just showing your hate and intolerance.

We don't go around calling atheists out because they have no direction in life due to the crimes of a few of them have committed so why do it to muslims.

You missed my point entirely. And then, after saying attack the nutters rather, you then go ahead and attack me by saying I have hate and intolerance. Then slip in another attack on atheists as to having "no direction in life".

Do I really need to point out your hypocrisy?
 
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You are talking about some individuals who had to be radicalized at some point. Hold on, let's have a look

Current stats show from 2017 there were 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. The consensus out there from all intelligence sources is that between 15 and 25% are radical. Let's call it 25%- this gives us 450million Muslims - Holy ****!!
Ok, 15% gives us 270 million!! 270million individuals willing to wear an explosive backpack??

There's certainly a large percentage who want sharia law imposed, since a muslim simply cannot hold that the law he's governed by is superior to sharia law. Is this not part of the jihad incumbent on all muslims?
 

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You are talking about some individuals who had to be radicalized at some point. Hold on, let's have a look

Current stats show from 2017 there were 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. The consensus out there from all intelligence sources is that between 15 and 25% are radical. Let's call it 25%- this gives us 450million Muslims - Holy ****!!
Ok, 15% gives us 270 million!! 270million individuals willing to wear an explosive backpack??
It takes a small % to do magic, dontyathink?
8% South africans : 1948 to 1994
19 hijackers (0.00000000001% ??) , 2977 killed: 9/11
 
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Why do we need religion?
Come on guys , keep it to your self.
Religion is like a penis.
Fantastic to have, stop yanking it out in public and forcing it down people’s throats.

Stop forcing people to follow you. Its not unlike rape. Just go about it in private let your wife decide if she wants it no need to force it down your kids throats. Incest is disgusting.
 

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Why do we need religion?
Come on guys , keep it to your self.
Religion is like a penis.
Fantastic to have, stop yanking it out in public and forcing it down people’s throats.

Stop forcing people to follow you. Its not unlike rape. Just go about it in private let your wife decide if she wants it no need to force it down your kids throats. Incest is disgusting.
The point of religion, at least Christian, is to go out and win/save some souls. You can't win souls without telling people about how good it is to be on the side of good and why it's in their interests not to burn in hell.
 

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The point of religion, at least Christian, is to go out and win/save some souls. You can't win souls without telling people about how good it is to be on the side of good and why it's in their interests not to burn in hell.
Still like a penis.
Have it, stop forcing it down people’s throats.
Everyone has heard about some sort or religion. No need to spread the word anymore.
Christianity should also keep a very quiet stance they didn’t do much better than the Muslims are currently doing. They have simmered don but your track record suck for being so vocal.

Do your church thing, no need to force anybody. And if your wife wants to wear a mini. For the love of the spaghetti monster, if she is ending up in hel for it, who cares you are so gatvol of her after 50 years why spend an eternity with her anyway.
 

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Why do we need religion?
Come on guys , keep it to your self.
Religion is like a penis.
Fantastic to have, stop yanking it out in public and forcing it down people’s throats.

Stop forcing people to follow you. Its not unlike rape. Just go about it in private let your wife decide if she wants it no need to force it down your kids throats. Incest is disgusting.

Well im not religious at all. Instead I'm Agnostic.

this however does not stop me from respecting peoples religion...

also...calm down before you hit a stroke.
 

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DAURA - The first thing 15-year-old Burhani saw when he arrived at an Islamic reformatory school in October was rows of youths and young men sitting on a courtyard floor, naked, bleeding and in chains.

His father had sent him to the school, famous across northern Nigeria for correcting bad behaviour, because he had been getting into fights and stealing, he said.

Thirteen days later, police descended on the school in the northwestern town of Daura. It was one of at least eight raids on Islamic schools in the region over the past six weeks that local authorities say have uncovered horrific abuse. Nearly 1,500 children and young adults like Burhani were freed in those raids including 259 on Monday in the southwestern city of Ibadan.

LIFELONG SCARS

Soon after their release from the Daura school, Burhani and another student described their experiences to Reuters, providing a glimpse of students’ daily activities on the inside.

Burhani said he would wake up at 3 am, unable to sleep from the unbearable heat in his unventilated quarters.

Boys and men were packed 40 or 50 to a room meant for eight, said Suleiman Surajo, 25, who added that he saw neither family nor friends during more than a year at the school. He said teachers would call students to the courtyard at 6 a.m., where they would be beaten, naked, as they washed.

The beatings continued as they hopped or shuffled across the courtyard, with chains around their ankles, to fetch the wooden boards inscribed with Koranic verses that they were instructed to read, Burhani said.

Burhani and Surajo both bear scars on their backs and ankles - Burhani’s still a raw pink.
 
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