'No pay, no leave' - govt warns civil servants who want to take part in Wednesday's stayaway

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Entrance from Yzerfontein into Darling.
More people have joined the protest now. Youths are even trying to highjack people.

Strange enough, Malmesbury and Atlantis have no protests. IMG_20220824_084042_566.jpg
 

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Entrance from Yzerfontein into Darling.
More people have joined the protest now. Youths are even trying to highjack people.

Strange enough, Malmesbury and Atlantis have no protests.
Let the violence and destruction commence :thumbsup:
 

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So how many are they now, 10 or 20?
The information coming through is that most of the protest is now happening in the middle of the town, with a lot more people joining the action. This all started at around 3:30am with small groups starting fires in the roads.
 

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So far this little "strike" is coming across as an even bigger damp squib than the last few attempts.
They are not making any difference to their own lives, but they are preventing people from going to work, thus earning a living and able to pay for food. If you want to strike over high prices, then it makes no sense to make it harder for people to survive.

A previous strike was because they were unhappy that their free housing was not built next to the golf course.
 

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They are not making any difference to their own lives, but they are preventing people from going to work, thus earning a living and able to pay for food. If you want to strike over high prices, then it makes no sense to make it harder for people to survive.

A previous strike was because they were unhappy that their free housing was not built next to the golf course.

Doesn't look like they're being very effective at preventing people from getting to work, at least in Durban.
 

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They are not making any difference to their own lives, but they are preventing people from going to work, thus earning a living and able to pay for food. If you want to strike over high prices, then it makes no sense to make it harder for people to survive.

A previous strike was because they were unhappy that their free housing was not built next to the golf course.
No "strike" should ever involve preventing other people from going to work. The moment that sort of thing happens the strikers should be dispersed.

I support the right to strike, but just as you should have a right to strike so should I have the right to disassociate from that strike.
 

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No "strike" should ever involve preventing other people from going to work. The moment that sort of thing happens the strikers should be dispersed.

I support the right to strike, but just as you should have a right to strike so should I have the right to disassociate from that strike.

Also, the minute strikers interfere in the ability for non-strikers to get to work, or in the operations of the company whilst they are on strike, the "protected" element of the strike must fall away immediately.
 

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Is it legal to dox pay from people who have have available leave-days, who takes a day-leave today?

Who's business is it whether they binge on streaming or participate in the strike/stay-away action?

What will business do when the corporate-types catch a wake-up and en-masse apply for a day's leave? Will they also pull a government?
 

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Is it legal to dox pay from people who have have available leave-days, who takes a day-leave today?

Who's business is it whether they binge on streaming or participate in the strike/stay-away action?

What will business do when the corporate-types catch a wake-up and en-masse apply for a day's leave? Will they also pull a government?

Leave is discretionary to some level, so a company can revoke your leave or even deny it for operational reasons.
 

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Also, the minute strikers interfere in the ability for non-strikers to get to work, or in the operations of the company whilst they are on strike, the "protected" element of the strike must fall away immediately.
Indeed. The right to disassociate should be respected.

Most people I feel would be behind these strikers if they limited their actions to a traditional strike.

They don't seem to understand that the point of a strike is to make your employer feel the pinch created by your absence, not the general public. In general individualism is not really respected in this country and it's a tragedy.
 

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Leave is discretionary to some level, so a company can revoke your leave or even deny it for operational reasons.
We've been discussing this matter in our DR forums and the view is that our business essentially relies on "good faith" from Staff to limit their participation in strike action.

If 70% of our staff en-masse decides to submit leave for, let say, today, how can they be prevented, even if it gets rejected? Doxxing a day's pay is not going to cover for the impact caused by such action.

And we're not even at thinking about all the HR/CCMA/Labour-Law fallout that will result, should the company reject leave and dox a day's pay.
 

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We've been discussing this matter in our DR forums and the view is that our business essentially relies on "good faith" from Staff to limit their participation in strike action.

If 70% of our staff en-masse decides to submit leave for, let say, today, how can they be prevented, even if it gets rejected? Doxxing a day's pay is not going to cover for the impact caused by such action.

And we're not even at thinking about all the HR/CCMA/Labour-Law fallout that will result, should the company reject leave and dox a day's pay.

Beyond just docking the pay, the staff also open themselves up to disciplinary proceedings due to being AWOL.
 

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Sure, then they will be strike and the government will give in. Number one cause of this country's problems no accountability for anything.
 
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