'No pay, no leave' - govt warns civil servants who want to take part in Wednesday's stayaway

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562343394814353408

Huge turnout....

 

[LCBXX]

Beyond just docking the pay, the staff also open themselves up to disciplinary proceedings due to being AWOL.

How will you deal with this when it involves, let's say, 70% of one's staff? 70% in our world is closing on 10K employees.

Point is that I think the Corporates are under the belief that they have limited exposure when it comes to "traditional" strike action, whereas they can just as easily be held at the mercy of their employees, if it comes it it, with very little real recourse.

 

[ToxicBunny]

How will you deal with this when it involves, let's say, 70% of one's staff?

Depends on the type of staff involved of course, but its entirely a case by case basis....

 

[OhYeah84]

They are not making any difference to their own lives, but they are preventing people from going to work, thus earning a living and able to pay for food. If you want to strike over high prices, then it makes no sense to make it harder for people to survive.

A previous strike was because they were unhappy that their free housing was not built next to the golf course.

Strikers causing others to not be paid or even losing their jobs. Who'd have thought...not the unions organising this!
Should have been on a weekend. If they're having little impact now, then it wouldn't have made any difference.

 

[OhYeah84]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562343394814353408

Huge turnout....

Trade union leader getting out of his luxury LR there?

 

[porchrat]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562343394814353408

Huge turnout....

Look at that police presence. There's something like 4 vehicles parked there. That's at least 8 cops. More cops than strikers.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Trade union leader getting out of his luxury LR there?

He deserves it though.... He is the leader so must have the nice stuff.

 

[OhYeah84]

He deserves it though.... He is the leader so must have the nice stuff.

While watching others (most likely taking part in an illegal protest if their companies expect them at work today) flush their jobs down the loo...

 

[sand_man]

Doesn't look like they're being very effective at preventing people from getting to work, at least in Durban.

Yip. I have a full team this morning. Based in Tembisa. None of them made it to work on the 1st of August when there was a localized protest over electricity tariffs.

If you want an effective shut down you got to get the taxi industry to endorse it.

 

[TheChamp]

Doesn't look like they're being very effective at preventing people from getting to work, at least in Durban.

Nothing here in Gauteng as well, maybe Cosatu and Saftu are that strong in the Western Cape.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Nothing here in Gauteng as well, maybe Cosatu and Saftu are that strong in the Western Cape.

Its all those refugees that they've shipped into the province... its the only explanation.

 

[grok]

Government clearly doesn't like a taste of their own medicine..

 

[Kosmik]

How will you deal with this when it involves, let's say, 70% of one's staff? 70% in our world is closing on 10K employees.

Point is that I think the Corporates are under the belief that they have limited exposure when it comes to "traditional" strike action, whereas they can just as easily be held at the mercy of their employees, if it comes it it, with very little real recourse.

If its a unproteted strike ie: employees are not actual members of the union, they can be held accountable as has been said already.

 

[LCBXX]

If its a unproteted strike ie: employees are not actual members of the union, they can be held accountable as has been said already.

How could one practically hold 70% of a large corporate, white-collar, workforce accountable, should they choose to halt productivity for a day?

 

[ToxicBunny]

How could one practically hold 70% of a large corporate, white-collar, workforce accountable, should they choose to halt productivity for a day?

Quite easily actually, issue written warnings for AWOL (if the policy allows for it), and dock their pay for the day.

 

[Kosmik]

How could one practically hold 70% of a large corporate, white-collar, workforce accountable, should they choose to halt productivity for a day?

Pretty much as @ToxicBunny said. Not sure what you are trying to say about the 70%? Absconcion is a valid disciplinary charge.

 

[neoprema]

Fire every last one of them. In fact in the idea world, they'de be fired for joining a union in the first place but alas...

 

[LCBXX]

Quite easily actually, issue written warnings for AWOL (if the policy allows for it), and dock their pay for the day.

Pretty much as @ToxicBunny said. Not sure what you are trying to say about the 70%? Absconcion is a valid disciplinary charge.

My point is that it's small-scale thinking. When you have, in our case, a 70% stay-away it amounts to nearly 10K staff.

Like I said, we've started discussions on whether something like a strike could actually occur within the white-collar corporates in the future, when aspects such as escalating fuel & living costs are also impacting this demographic, and how would it impact business continuity.

I reckon the thinking around usual threats of disciplinary actions won't cut it as a deterrent when it comes it it, just like it doesn't cut it for the blue-collar worker.

 

[OhYeah84]

If its a unproteted strike ie: employees are not actual members of the union, they can be held accountable as has been said already.

An unprotected strike is a strike whereby any action is deemed illegal and not allowed by the CCMA/Labour Court after a dispute is declared and not resolved.
You can belong to a union and take part in an unprotected strike and still get fired.

 

[Kosmik]

My point is that it's small-scale thinking. When you have, in our case, a 70% stay-away it amounts to nearly 10K staff.

Like I said, we've started discussions on whether something like a strike could actually occur within the white-collar corporates in the future, when aspects such as escalating fuel & living costs are also impacting this demographic, and how would it impact business continuity.

I reckon the thinking around usual threats of disciplinary actions won't cut it as a deterrent when it comes it it, just like it doesn't cut it for the blue-collar worker.

White collar workers will have the same rights, ie: unionise etc. In fact a while ago the "blue" unions were pushing for the "admin" staff to join them, probably because it would mean more funds too as union levies are a percentage if I recall.

My point and @ToxicBunny is that if you are NOT part of a union involved in the strike and its protected, you will not be , so yes normal dsciplinary can follow. Obviously that is at the discretion of the employer.