No warning shots and other rules for soldiers during Operation PROSPER

[Jan]

Rules for soldiers while fighting riots in South Africa revealed

The Ministry of Defence and Military Veterans has published a code of conduct for South Africa's armed forces to adhere to during their mission to support the police in quelling riots around the country.

"Upholding and enforcement of the law within the Republic remains the primary responsibility of the South African Police Service (SAPS)," the document stated.

 

[scudsucker]

It is a little worrying that this rule is required:

Do not run away when attacked by civilians.

 

[Mystic Twilight]

It is a little worrying that this rule is required:

A fight to the death it shall be.

 

[system32]

A fight to the death it shall be.

Firing warning shots is prohibited...

 

[Synaesthesia]

Pretty reasonable rules

 

[Other Pineapple Smurf]

 

[rambo919]

Do not run away when attacked by civilians.

 

[/dev/null]

It is a little worrying that this rule is required:

I read that as a self-defense rule. They are told to not use any force but in the event that they are attacked they must stand their ground.

 

[Vorastra]

This kinda makes sense though, no?
It expressly allows for confrontation in situations where should there be a massive group coming towards them then they mustn't retreat like they should but rather stand their ground which means firing on the group?
It's literally allowing soldiers to confront groups and not retreat like any police force would and should.

I don't see it as don't be a coward but rather that they're being told not to cede ground at all.

 

[Vorastra]

@Pineapple Smurf who's this @Other Pineapple Smurf ?

 

[rambo919]

I don't see it as don't be a coward but rather that they're being told not to cede ground at all.

The way any self respecting soldier should already be acting anyway?

 

[Vorastra]

The way any self respecting soldier should already be acting anyway?

If hundreds of people are running down the road at a squad of soldiers, yes, you'd expect them move back to a better defensible area.
Soldiers aren't juggernauts.

Watch IDF footage when they're dealing with large groups of Palestinians in urban conditions. They push if they can, and they move back if they have to.

 

[Pineapple Smurf]

@Pineapple Smurf who's this @Other Pineapple Smurf ?

 

[rambo919]

If hundreds of people are running down the road at a squad of soldiers, yes, you'd expect them move back to a better defensible area.
Soldiers aren't juggernauts.

Then don't be in a less defensible area to begin with.... not rocket science.

 

[Vorastra]

Then don't be in a less defensible area to begin with.... not rocket science.

I added extra to my comment.
Bruh, have you seen the wide open roads without any buildings?

 

[rambo919]

I added extra to my comment.
Bruh, have you seen the wide open roads without any buildings?

I appreciate you giving these clowns the benefit of the doubt but it's more fun to mock them.

There is a major difference between sensible maneuvering and being routed.... which is what this rule seems to actually be aimed at.

 

[Vorastra]

I appreciate you giving these clowns the benefit of the doubt but it's more fun to mock them.

Fair enough. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There is a major difference between sensible maneuvering and being routed.... which is what this rule seems to actually be aimed at.

Eh. Let's hope it pushes the SANDF to be dominant, at least.

 

[rambo919]

Eh. Let's hope it pushes the SANDF to be dominant, at least.

Probably won't end well either way.

At best they are not an embarrassment at worst they join the looters.

 

[furpile]

The document reinforced that SANDF members have an inherent right to self-defence.

“This right to self-defence may be exercised to defend oneself, other members, prime mission equipment, property, SAPS members and any member of the public where life is threatened and/or where there is an imminent threat of serious injury or destruction of property,” it stated.

So the army can kill people to protect property but civilians are not allowed to.

 

[duckgray]

Firing warning shots is prohibited...

so they can shoot to kill right from the start?