Nokia Lumia 710 launched in South Africa, pricing reveled

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Bad... R 4000 for a subpar device specs wise. When you're new in the market you should be humble...

I honestly think Nokia SA sucks at marketing their smartphones. They are priced to match Androids like Galaxy S2 yet they're not as much phone. Its like pricing an iPhone without the hype. Blind!
 

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Nokia Lumia 710 launched in South Africa, pricing revealed

Lower cost Windows Phone 7 device launched in SA, pricing revealed

This is much better news.

The other article had said the price would be R3,999 for the Lumia 610. If this is the price for the higher spec'ed 710 then there is hope that the 610 will be at least R1,500 cheaper = R2,499 at launch. Effectively competing with the latest BB's and Samsung in its class.

By the time I am ready to buy it, which is next year in Jan/Feb the price could have plummeted down a little to about R1,999, which IMO is pretty reasonable.

Thank you for the update.

Keep us posted and keep up the great work.
 

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Another failure from Nokia.

Why make single cored phones even now, most phones are dual core, heading to quad core, and nokia is still behind?

It would be much better if this phone has Android OS on it, WP is dead.
 

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Another failure from Nokia.

Why make single cored phones even now, most phones are dual core, heading to quad core, and nokia is still behind?

It would be much better if this phone has Android OS on it, WP is dead.

Why will people not stop saying this? WP is not dead. It isn't doing well, but it definitely is not dead. It's by far the best platform (yes, I've used them all) for my needs. And I'm not unique.
 

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Why will people not stop saying this? WP is not dead. It isn't doing well, but it definitely is not dead. It's by far the best platform (yes, I've used them all) for my needs. And I'm not unique.

Ahm, is it just me, or do you seem a little bit biased towards WP. You have a WP fan site, and ~5 apps you have developed for WP. Probably, because you haven't experienced non-Microsoft crap before. It seems it only fits your needs because you only know a Microsoft developed language and that is compatible with WP. Seriously, WP is too full of bugs, I won't want to download updates every single day, just to fix basic bugs. If they really want to get their act straight, then they shouldn't release faulty software.

Microsoft is already losing the war on the Internet and tablet side of things, only a matter of time until they lose the PC dominance. Microsoft, should start innovating more and play less catchup towards other companies.
 

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Ahm, is it just me, or do you seem a little bit biased towards WP. You have a WP fan site, and ~5 apps you have developed for WP. Probably, because you haven't experienced non-Microsoft crap before. It seems it only fits your needs because you only know a Microsoft developed language and that is compatible with WP. Seriously, WP is too full of bugs, I won't want to download updates every single day, just to fix basic bugs. If they really want to get their act straight, then they shouldn't release faulty software.

Microsoft is already losing the war on the Internet and tablet side of things, only a matter of time until they lose the PC dominance. Microsoft, should start innovating more and play less catchup towards other companies.

Yeah, ofcourse I am biased towards WP - because I really really like it. And I'm not saying that X is better than Y, I'm saying that I prefer X to Y. If I couldn't code it would be no different. I would still love it. If I didn't I would just use the WP7 as a dev device and use whatever phone I preferred.

Actually WP7 has remarkably few bugs. The Lumia's have had battery and data problems, but that is device specific, and more Nokia's fault. The biggest bug that has effected WP7 is general is probably the keyboard dissapearing, which most people took a month or two to ever actually notice.

Most people complain when they don't get updates (I'm looking at you Android users)...you are complaining that you're GETTING updates o.0.

Look, I'm just saying that everyone is allowed to like whatever they want, and don't presume that your use case or your feelings are the same as everyone elses.

On the tablet side, have you used W8 on a slate? It's awesome (IMO). I'm using W8 on my main desktop and slate with no problems, besides usual beta bugs. They are late to the party, but have the advantage of still having a massive marketshare (desktop). I'm excited to see where things head to be honest, and I hope they don't stuff this up.

p.s. WPCentral isn't really a WP7 fan site. That would be like calling MyBB an adsl fan site - which I guess is partly correct.
 
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Most people complain when they don't get updates (I'm looking at you Android users)...you are complaining that you're GETTING updates o.0.

Updates that are for adding new features = win.
Updates for fixing simple but devastating bugs = fail.

Seriously, we're talking about a company that's been making operating systems for DECADES, and their mobile efforts have been at least a decade as well. They should NOT be screwing up like this, yet they are.

No amount of "slick, awesome UI" is going to help when my phone dies during the day and I'm nowhere near a place I can charge it, or when my bundles expire and I need to use USSD to buy more, or when I need to type an sms or email and the keyboard disappears.

Would anybody be as forgiving if Bada screwed up this badly?

Yes I get that you like it and are entitled to your opinion, but dont get surprised when people see the screw ups and say

Another failure

We all have our opinions, usually well thought out based on the evidence given.
 
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I love WP7. It may get a lot of updates, but far fewer than the amount Android has received since its release.
 

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Updates that are for adding new features = win.
Updates for fixing simple but devastating bugs = fail.

Seriously, we're talking about a company that's been making operating systems for DECADES, and their mobile efforts have been at least a decade as well. They should NOT be screwing up like this, yet they are.

No amount of "slick, awesome UI" is going to help when my phone dies during the day and I'm nowhere near a place I can charge it, or when my bundles expire and I need to use USSD to buy more, or when I need to type an sms or email and the keyboard disappears.

Would anybody be as forgiving if Bada screwed up this badly?

Yes I get that you like it and are entitled to your opinion, but dont get surprised when people see the screw ups and say



We all have our opinions, usually well thought out based on the evidence given.
Ok, you are really going on hearsay now. The only valid point was USSD.
Battery is fixed, as is the disappearing keyboard. I have one device that I have not updated with the keyboard fix and I can't remember it ever happening in the 2 months of having it. It did happen on one of my other devices, but you do realize that a single tap brings it up again right?

So basically, barring the keyboard one, all the major bugs have been on Nokias side. Those were the battery, data, and soft-key illumination.

So please enlighten me on what major bugs have actually got past MS?

Now lets compare this to the other big players. Both iOS and Android have had their fair share of major problems. Which leads me to believe that you are still using a Nokia 3310 or the like - which doesn't do enough to actually be buggy.

P.s. There was actually a bug at launch with yahoo, and although it was yahoos bad, its is MSs problem as it shipped across all devices.
 

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My problem only with the pricing. WP or another OS does have a place in the world!
 

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One can get a Galaxy S2 for that price. What are they smoking? I also believe WP is dead. The amount of apps you have is key and WP is far behind. Also dropping the free storage on Skydrive to 7 GB is a fail. At least it gives Google Drive a much better chance. The amount of spam in Hotmail I receive is also a joke then they want to brag about their "state of the art" spam filter.
 

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One can get a Galaxy S2 for that price. What are they smoking? I also believe WP is dead. The amount of apps you have is key and WP is far behind. Also dropping the free storage on Skydrive to 7 GB is a fail. At least it gives Google Drive a much better chance. The amount of spam in Hotmail I receive is also a joke then they want to brag about their "state of the art" spam filter.
The wp7 marketplace is the fastest growing one of them all. And with wp8 sharing the code base of windows 8, its safe to assume that this trend will scale up.
While it is dissapointing that they dropped it to 7, that's still better than googles and dropbox's offerings. Plus the plans are dirt cheap. And anyway, go login to your account and you can keep the 25gb forever.
 

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I would have loved to get the 800, but the pricing is a joke. Samsung is dragging its feet in getting the Galaxy S2 with ICS into Vodacom's shops, so what now? I'm overdue for a new phone ("upgrade" in VC speak), but the deals on either are not good enough.
 

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In the US the Lumia 900 is free on contract. If we ever get that kind of deal here, which is admittedly unlikely, it will be the best phone around for the money.

As for the single-core vs dual core issue, the Windows OS doesn't need an enormous CPU to run smoothly. In addition, CPU efficiency is still very important - Intel's Medfield smartphone chips also use a 1.4ghz single core and the benchmarks are roughly equal to any other dual-core phone chip.
 
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Ok, you are really going on hearsay now. The only valid point was USSD.
Battery is fixed, as is the disappearing keyboard. I have one device that I have not updated with the keyboard fix and I can't remember it ever happening in the 2 months of having it. It did happen on one of my other devices, but you do realize that a single tap brings it up again right?

So basically, barring the keyboard one, all the major bugs have been on Nokias side. Those were the battery, data, and soft-key illumination.

So please enlighten me on what major bugs have actually got past MS?

Now lets compare this to the other big players. Both iOS and Android have had their fair share of major problems. Which leads me to believe that you are still using a Nokia 3310 or the like - which doesn't do enough to actually be buggy.

P.s. There was actually a bug at launch with yahoo, and although it was yahoos bad, its is MSs problem as it shipped across all devices.

I think the point of my post completely went over your head. I didn't mention all those things because they're bugs that are still unresolved, I mentioned all those things because they happened and were found gradually, making me as a consumer what the next screw up will be.

USSD is unique in that they didn't release a bug, that screw up is BY DESIGN. I would like to think they could get better at this but all previous evidence says they're going to keep doing this sort of thing. Hell, even their current latest desktop OS, Windows 7, still has the issue where the OS locks files your USB drive so you can't unplug it.

They need to fix the perception that they don't produce quality, and it looks like they're instead doing what they always do. :erm:
 

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I think the point of my post completely went over your head. I didn't mention all those things because they're bugs that are still unresolved, I mentioned all those things because they happened and were found gradually, making me as a consumer what the next screw up will be.

USSD is unique in that they didn't release a bug, that screw up is BY DESIGN. I would like to think they could get better at this but all previous evidence says they're going to keep doing this sort of thing. Hell, even their current latest desktop OS, Windows 7, still has the issue where the OS locks files your USB drive so you can't unplug it.

They need to fix the perception that they don't produce quality, and it looks like they're instead doing what they always do. :erm:

And apparently what I was saying went completely over your head. Point I was trying to make was WP7 has not had more bugs than any other platform. In-fact, it hasn't had ANY "deal breaker" bugs. If a disappearing keyboard is the biggest issue that has got through in the 2 years it's been around, then you can't sit here and tell us how crappy their coding is.

You sound like you are trying to hate it - which is pretty typical of the entire world who hasn't actually used it.

And with the safely remove thing, you know that by default you don't have to safely remove stuff anymore?
If you want to enable caching (in which case you will need to safely remove), then right click the stick -> Properties ->
Hardware -> Properties -> Change Settings -> policies.


EDIT: OK this convo is going nowhere :p. Let's chat at the end of the year :)
 
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