Non-Vaccination brag thread

[Markd]

The rhetoric is that those people would have had some unknown comorbidities so can't be classed healthy. It's a fluid view but can't win.

they reduce infections rate and transmission (they don't elimitate them), they reduce symptomatic infections, and they pretty much prevent death. Sign me up.

 

[rietrot]

I have personally now lost 4 friends to Covid. A healthy 69 year old (a runner). A 31 year old, a 33 year old and a 36 year old (all living active healthy life styles).

So anyone that tells you it's fake news, I'll take them to their grave sites and their grieving families.

It's really sad that the 0.2% of people actually at risk are all in your group of friends.

I'm clad that I'm not your friend.

 

[rietrot]

they reduce infections rate and transmission (they don't elimitate them), they reduce symptomatic infections, and they pretty much prevent death. Sign me up.

Fake news. Same viral loads.

 

[Deleted member 369928]

I have personally now lost 4 friends to Covid. A healthy 69 year old (a runner). A 31 year old, a 33 year old and a 36 year old (all living active healthy life styles).

So anyone that tells you it's fake news, I'll take them to their grave sites and their grieving families.

Eh, like my parents. They have lost about 7 close friends / family to covid. So they are convinced the entire world is going to die.

 

[TheJman]

Eh, like my parents. They have lost about 7 close friends / family to covid. So they are convinced the entire world is going to die.

Funny how people with such strong views on this like to put words into other people's mouths...

The whole world isn't going to die, but young healthy people have now died from this virus - yes, young healthy people all around the world die all the time from different ailments - but the contention at hand is this utter bs statement made above

"The evidence for healthy people dying is really anecdotal, if not completely fake news. Im not interested in your WhatsApp stories about someone's cousin that your great aunt or whomever knows that has died. Just too much of that nonsense around."

I just happen to be able to prove that some people on here talk absolute BS

 

[Forum Reader]

It's really sad that the 0.2% of people actually at risk are all in your group of friends.

I'm clad that I'm not your friend.

Would be interesting to see where you get that 0.2% of people are at risk. With current figures, over 0.1% of the world population has died to Covid. That includes kids, babies, etc. in the denominator. Remove them from the denominator and over 0.2% of adults have died. The portion of people at risk can't be less than the portion that died.

 

[Ragnarök]

Probably the plan all along, big pharma is milking it with these government policies.

Big Pharma is in the business of making money , not curing diseases

 

[Nanfeishen]

What’s wrong with making money you commies.

Brilliant business model at peoples expense.

Produce a product that doesnt confer immunity, only reduces the severity by a percentage for a period of time, while still allowing replication and transmission.

Redefine the definition of the medical term to get it listed as the medical solution, and market it as "game changer" in a time of fear, worry and chaos.

Supply it world wide under condition of no guarantees or legal comebacks, while knowing full well that :
a: viruses mutate naturally, and that the larger the infected population size the greater the number of variants
b: each variant will require either a booster or newer version of your product

Sit back, watch the money roll in, laughing all the way to the bank

 

[Deleted member 369928]

Funny how people with such strong views on this like to put words into other people's mouths...

The whole world isn't going to die, but young healthy people have now died from this virus - yes, young healthy people all around the world die all the time from different ailments - but the contention at hand is this utter bs statement made above

"The evidence for healthy people dying is really anecdotal, if not completely fake news. Im not interested in your WhatsApp stories about someone's cousin that your great aunt or whomever knows that has died. Just too much of that nonsense around."

I just happen to be able to prove that some people on here talk absolute BS

Well it all depends on the definition of healthy.
You could be healthy and still have a k2k immune system. Or you could be unhealthy and have a strong immune system.

People fail to realize you can run comrades, be lean and mean, but none of that matters if your gut bacteria is lacking.

 

[lumeer]

Fake news. Same viral loads.

No, same viral RNA loads. In the case of vaccinated people, this could well be dead virions. I.e. the virus infects the person, they no longer have adequate antibodies so the virus starts replicating in their nasal passage, but within two days their immune memory from the vaccine kicks in and their T cells start making antibodies which then neutralise these viral particles. The nasal swab test picks up viral RNA be it from living or dead viral particles. In the case of vaccinated people, there's no evidence that their viral load is the same as in unvaccinated people, only that they have similar amounts of viral RNA in their nasal passages, which is perfectly consistent with an effective vaccine.

 

[Gyre]

What’s wrong with making money you commies.

Capitalism is the best thing ever, unless it's the New World Order Illuminati doing it

 

[Gyre]

Big Pharma is in the business of making money , not curing diseases

Fast Food companies are in the business of making money, not feeding my hunger.
Bed companies are in the business of making money, not offering us comfort.
Plumbers are the business of making money, not fixing our plumbing.
Authors are in the business of making money, not giving us things to read.

It's all a conspiracy! I'll need to KEEP calling out plumbers, I'll need to keep eating, I'll need to find new things to read - there is no rest! We have to stop this!

 

[Pudding McTwinkle]

allows people to carry on as they were, etc.

You are still contagious regardless of your vaccine status, how are they possibly going to continue on as they were?

 

[Pudding McTwinkle]

Fast Food companies are in the business of making money, not feeding my hunger.
Bed companies are in the business of making money, not offering us comfort.
Plumbers are the business of making money, not fixing our plumbing.
Authors are in the business of making money, not giving us things to read.

It's all a conspiracy! I'll need to KEEP calling out plumbers, I'll need to keep eating, I'll need to find new things to read - there is no rest! We have to stop this!

Oh please. Nobody is forcing those on you. Nice try.

 

[TheJman]

Well it all depends on the definition of healthy.
You could be healthy and still have a k2k immune system. Or you could be unhealthy and have a strong immune system.

People fail to realize you can run comrades, be lean and mean, but none of that matters if your gut bacteria is lacking.

Fair... but that's the gamble then - what if you're the one with some underlying issue that you have no idea you have - some aspect that makes you susceptible to dying from this virus...

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Big Pharma is in the business of making money , not curing diseases

Do you have a problem with them making money while curing disease?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Oh please. Nobody is forcing those on you. Nice try.

Nobody is forcing the vaccine on you either...

 

[Deleted member 369928]

Fair... but that's the gamble then - what if you're the one with some underlying issue that you have no idea you have - some aspect that makes you susceptible to dying from this virus...

You dont know.
I just wish people / medical professionals would start talking more about gut health.

Currently we can conclude comorbidity is not a deciding factor. Neither is old age. Nor youth.

 

[R13...]

You are still contagious regardless of your vaccine status, how are they possibly going to continue on as they were?

The same reason the likes of the UK allow full stadium attendance. If people aren't going to be laid low by the virus then there's no need to restrict them. They are unlikely to be a burden on the healthcare system or funeral industry (who may not like not having as much work).

 

[Ragnarök]

Do you have a problem with them making money while curing disease?

90% of what they are selling is to ease the symptoms .