Non-Vaccination brag thread

[pinball wizard]

I completely agree with you! However, the reality is is that these "violations" are already in place, so introducing one more for safety isn't going to plunge us into the cellar of the concentration camps

So when do we say no? Now, or after the 100th restriction is placed?

 

[Dave]

Jeez, but the idiocy from some is strong in this thread…

 

[Gyre]

All those documents do is simply Identify you as the actual individual, only a drivers licence has anything regarding health and that is regarding glasses , and actual physical disability

the front page of a passport
"requests all whom it may concern to allow the bearer of this passport to pass freely without let or hinderance"

No mention of ones health status.

For certain countries one has an immunisation card in case of certain illnesses, and that is it.

With Covid , you are not immunised, simply vaccinated because you have not been rendered unsusceptible to it.

The identity also allows you benefits, like IDs show that you are a citizen, allow you access to a bank account, allow you to be employable at an actual workplace, etc.

A driver's license not only identifies you, but shows that you are competent to be driving a vehicles, allows you to seek employment driving a vehicle.

Passports are also denied on various grounds, but to travel to another country is usually always for ones benefit, whether it is business or pleasure. I don't want to get into the technicalities but having a passport is a long distance from being a dompass or concentration camp sticker.

 

[Gyre]

So when do we say no? Now, or after the 100th restriction is placed?

Restrictions are part of life, I am restricted from walking around naked in public for example - this is obviously trampling on my freedom and rights, but we know why these restrictions exist.

 

[Grant]

Probably the plan all along, big pharma is milking it with these government policies.

Of course it was the plan all along.
A couple of pharmaceutical execs got together at a meeting at Bohemian Grove. At that point they were accepted into the illuminati.

From then on it was a breeze to get doctors and scientists across the planet to agree to their cunning plan.
Thereafter, the leaders of every nation were instructed to tow the line.

 

[s0lar]

What about the oher passports, like your ID document, your drivers license, your tag to get into a building, your ACTUAL passport to get into another country, etc?

Are those violations of your rights too?

Lol, this oke. Worst analogy, doesn't even make sense to compare a drivers license to a vax passport.

 

[s0lar]

Jeez, but the idiocy from some is strong in this thread…

Urban Dictionary: vaxhole

One who has been fully vaccinated for the COVID-19 virus and brags about it.

www.urbandictionary.com

 

[TheJman]

We are discussing the Rona vaccine. Nice try though...

You haven't answered my question though? If you don't have an answer, that's okay too.

I'll post again for ease of reference:

So at what objective stage do vaccines become "safe"?

Because there are plenty of people out there who don't want to have any vaccine - so they are being discriminated against right?

 

[dusi]

Of course it was the plan all along.
A couple of pharmaceutical execs got together at a meeting at Bohemian Grove. At that point they were accepted into the illuminati.

From then on it was a breeze to get doctors and scientists across the planet to agree to their cunning plan.
Thereafter, the leaders of every nation were instructed to tow the line.

Now that sounds like a conspiracy theory.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Did you miss the discussion about vaccine passports. Limiting a persons freedoms if they don't conform is forcing people. Might as well build some concentration camps for unvaccinated people.

Vaccine passports have been around for decades:

 

[Deleted member 369928]

It seems to be something genetic - there are some families I know where their 90 year old Grandmother had it as was okay, and then others where a whole family is wiped out from it.

When all this started there was some geneticist who hypothesized that Covid-19 is targeting people with a specific genetic mutation. In theory that specific mutation made 2% of the world population.

It was quickly wiped under the carpet followed by the usual discrediting campaign and public attacks etc.
I am not saying he was right. But its plausible. And honestly would explain why seemingly healthy people are murdered in 5 days from first symptoms.

 

[Conack]

The same reason the likes of the UK allow full stadium attendance. If people aren't going to be laid low by the virus then there's no need to restrict them. They are unlikely to be a burden on the healthcare system or funeral industry (who may not like not having as much work).

Really?

Science | AAAS

science.sciencemag.org

"Israel has among the world's highest levels of vaccination for COVID-19, with 78% of those 12 and older fully vaccinated, the vast majority with the Pfizer vaccine. Yet the country is now logging one of the world's highest infection rates, with nearly 650 new cases daily per million people."

Israeli hospitals see first signs of system's collapse from coronavirus

***

www.haaretz.com

"currently at full capacity. “But the surgical ICU doesn't have enough space,”


It seems the vaccinated are spreading Covid19 just as well and are filling up the hospitals in Israel, which boasts one of the highest vaccinated rates in the world?

 

[Gyre]

Lol, this oke. Worst analogy, doesn't even make sense to compare a drivers license to a vax passport.

How are they different?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

You've heard of that wall some americans want built along the border with mexico? You understand that at least half the people in america view the access control between the two countries as a human rights violation, and a large part of their argument is that people with your mindset, come exactly from a place of privilege and seek to impose control because of that privilege?

The entire point of the items you list are to exclude people, like access control at a business.

Worse still are passports to control access to a country, especially when 90% of all borders in the world are arbitrarily drawn on a piece of paper by conquering colonists. Do you think Pakistan was a country? Or Afghanistan? They were invented by people with privilege as you put it, and they have absolutely violated people's rights.

Let's start a bit closer to home then. Do you have access control to your home at your front gate or front door? Why? It's a violation of freedoms to deny people entry according to you.

 

[JohnStarr]

It's very telling that so many victims of the mass psychosis feel the need to try to defend the vaccines and downplay anything inconvenient in this thread of all places, even though there are countless threads which are actually relevant to their cause. They don't seem to realize that they will not change anyone's mind, but actually hurt their own misguided cause. Anyone who would take anything parroted from authorities with a grain of salt is already on the same page as them, and doesn't need to be convinced to inject themselves with potentially harmful pathogens.

Not everyone wears a Tin Hat though. Some are pragmatic, realists and follow some form of logic instead of a page on the Dark Web about conspiracy theories.

 

[rietrot]

Would be interesting to see where you get that 0.2% of people are at risk. With current figures, over 0.1% of the world population has died to Covid. That includes kids, babies, etc. in the denominator. Remove them from the denominator and over 0.2% of adults have died. The portion of people at risk can't be less than the portion that died.

Specifically you healthy people. I'm not talking abou 80 year olds.

 

[LCBXX]

Lol, this oke. Worst analogy, doesn't even make sense to compare a drivers license to a vax passport.

I called him a pvssy and he reported me.

 

[JohnStarr]

He knows more about vaccines than you know on any bunch of topics combined.

Please raise this with SWA/Geoff so that they realise doctors/pharmacists also know more than them. They seem to have their wires and thoughts crossed...

 

[JohnStarr]

It seems the vaccinated are spreading Covid19 just as well and are filling up the hospitals in Israel, which boasts one of the highest vaccinated rates in the world?

If you believe the vaccine prevents you getting or spreading the virus, I'd do a bit more research and reading.
It stops you getting the worst of the symptoms and, for the most part, dying a horrible death by virtually drowning in an induced coma.

 

[AlmightyBender]

What about the oher passports, like your ID document, your drivers license, your tag to get into a building, your ACTUAL passport to get into another country, etc?

Are those violations of your rights too?

Well, the short answer, is yes.

This is what jumping the shark looks like in the context of this discussion.

Folks effectively advocating for the dismantling of civil society and institutions and thousands of years of human effort and progress for the purposes of... what exactly? It astounds the mind.

If you want absolute freedom go live in Somalia. No government there to constrain your freedoms. Can go drive a car there no problem without a driver's licence.