Non-Vaccination brag thread

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pinball wizard

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Why not start with the existing restrictions and say no? Here's a few for you to say no to:

ID Document
Passport
Income Tax Registration
Bank accounts
Property registration
Vehicle licensing
Vehicle ownership documents
The deeds office
Rough diamond ownership
Municipal rates
Credit cards
Property ownership

Plenty more for you to start on. Let me know how you get on.
Ever hear people going on about whataboutism? I read that somewhere.

Crawl back in your hole, Russian embassies.
 

pinball wizard

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I am restricted from walking around naked in public for example
No, you aren't. You choose to be in a society that has normalised a set of rules around this behaviour. You are absolutely free to walk around naked. You are absolutely free to endure the consequences of the society that you have chosen to be a part of. For this example, neither of the choices are forced onto you.

There are people living in India today who have no home after the British artificially created Pakistan. The same with Palestinians. Their absolute freedom is usurped with no choice on their part. They live with restrictions forced upon them.
 

Cosmik Debris

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Ever hear people going on about whataboutism? I read that somewhere.

Crawl back in your hole, Russian embassies.

Hey, you were the one going on about another restriction to "muh freedoms". I just pointed out the present restrictions you should have been fighting already if you don't like restrictions to your freedoms.
 

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No, you aren't. You choose to be in a society that has normalised a set of rules around this behaviour. You are absolutely free to walk around naked. You are absolutely free to endure the consequences of the society that you have chosen to be a part of. For this example, neither of the choices are forced onto you.

There are people living in India today who have no home after the British artificially created Pakistan. The same with Palestinians. Their absolute freedom is usurped with no choice on their part. They live with restrictions forced upon them.

That is the point I was making, thank you.
 

Cosmik Debris

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No, you aren't. You choose to be in a society that has normalised a set of rules around this behaviour. You are absolutely free to walk around naked. You are absolutely free to endure the consequences of the society that you have chosen to be a part of. For this example, neither of the choices are forced onto you.

There are people living in India today who have no home after the British artificially created Pakistan. The same with Palestinians. Their absolute freedom is usurped with no choice on their part. They live with restrictions forced upon them.

What does this rambling reply have to do with the topic?
 

pinball wizard

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What does this rambling reply have to do with the topic?


It has to do with a discussion on whether passports constitute an impingement upon one's freedom.

Sort of an intellectual debate the other guy started, way beneath your impeccable skills in articulation though, so move right along.
 

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You haven't answered my question though? If you don't have an answer, that's okay too.

I'll post again for ease of reference:

So at what objective stage do vaccines become "safe"?

Because there are plenty of people out there who don't want to have any vaccine - so they are being discriminated against right?

I guess old @George Netherby just ignores questions that make him look in the mirror and see his own reflection ;)
 

HunterNW

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Not at all...again, drawing conclusions based on some text. You're really good at that. I am all for rules etc. But I am just not for idiots online or in real life. I find that very hard to deal with.
But you are ignoring the people who did die, and that's what I referred too.

Jeez, I really hope you don't expect clarifications on everything you read. Go hit a tree or a pillow if you have anger to work off.
This is the Non-jab thread. Do you need a picture to explain it ?
Where did i ignore dead people ? I'm damn sad for those who's still alive after losing someone close/special due to any illness. Not just covid related.
And i am not angry. Not at you in anycase.
 

LCBXX

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As the "science" currently stands, holding a recent negative Covid test is much more relevant than holding a vaccination card/passport.
 

TheJman

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When they have been tested thoroughly in line with protocol's used for the development of known effective vaccines.

What protocols man?? the WHO? the FDA? Which organization?

This is purely subjective view.

Your contention "Are we discussing these very effective vaccines with years and years of data, or these sort of vaccine/treatments for Rona." - what do you say to people who say that the vaccines you think are effective are not effective or safe (like the polio vaccine?).
 

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So probably wont be going anytime soon for the vaccination, unless it becomes critical in terms of job requirement or travel requirements. My reason is as follows:

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Number of Confirmed Covid Deaths / 80% of South African Population x 100 = % of Death to Estimated Number of Infections
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100% - Answer determined in 4 above = Current South African chances of surviving COVID

Edit: It is called making an informed choice. This is subject to change as new information come to light.
 
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So when do we say no? Now, or after the 100th restriction is placed?
Never.
If you are boiled slowly enough you will never realize you were boiled.
So sit back, chill, enjoy the freedoms you still enjoy cause your grand kids will never know wtf freedom is.

Its already so far gone we barely know what freedom is. Our freedom is the freedom to go a store. And if they have their way, soon not even that will be an option without a passport of sorts.
 
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