Non-Vaccination brag thread

[WorldWarIII]

seriously... why are so many pro vaccine people such fffffken pricks? regardless of facts, stats, numbers...

if you want it get. and leave everyone else to make their own choice. Do you take a selfy when you put money in the collection plate at church?

Does the vaccine make you this way? were you already this way? how??

 

[chuckles_the_cnt]

The dead dont spread disease, the living do ,

imagine a world with less short sightedness, it'll be glorious ! +1 humanity long term.

The vaccinated living included.

until they're not living anymore eh.

seriously... why are so many pro vaccine people such fffffken pricks? regardless of facts, stats, numbers...

if you want it get. and leave everyone else to make their own choice. Do you take a selfy when you put money in the collection plate at church?

Does the vaccine make you this way? were you already this way? how??

guess the amount of people we lost due to antivax notions kinda rubs one up the wrong way.

 

[WorldWarIII]

guess the amount of people we lost due to antivax notions kinda rubs one up the wrong way.

thousands more have been lost to murder and taxi crashes . are you out castrating everyone that doesnt regulate the roads and patrol the streets?

 

[Gyre]

seriously... why are so many pro vaccine people such fffffken pricks? regardless of facts, stats, numbers...

if you want it get. and leave everyone else to make their own choice. Do you take a selfy when you put money in the collection plate at church?

Does the vaccine make you this way? were you already this way? how??

I don't think anyone is really bragging about getting it, I think people are peeved that they are acting like covid is nothing.

Anyone changing their views or making news is then seen as "propaganda" instead of being a warning sign.

I myself knew covid was bad based on stories, I just didn't realize HOW bad it was until I got it. I wouldn't wish it on anyone, then there are people who tell us it's fear-mongering, propaganda, just the flu, more people die to TB, yada yada.

What may seem like people being pricks is just frustration at people not understanding the gravity of the situation.

 

[R13...]

Have no idea. I notice the stream says "Daily Mail" offices, but Twitter reports it is ITV.

Lol I see they stormed a building two weeks ago as well in a protest against BBC but the BBC had left the building some years ago. Idiots. Can't even blame the vaxx.

 

[chuckles_the_cnt]

thousands more have been lost to murder and taxi crashes . are you out castrating everyone that doesnt regulate the roads and patrol the streets?

not a bad idea, but i would be angry at the murderers and those purposefully causing "accidents"?
being angry at idiots doesn't bring my family members back, but I can vent can I not? I suppose most antivaxxers doesn't really have anyone to care for or about - if they did their actions would be different. Who's the "fffffken pricks?"

 

[WorldWarIII]

not a bad idea, but i would be angry at the murderers and those purposefully causing "accidents"?
being angry at idiots doesn't bring my family members back, but I can vent can I not? I suppose most antivaxxers doesn't really have anyone to care for or about - if they did their actions would be different. Who's the "fffffken pricks?"

SO you only care if the taxi hit one of your family members? Much like I should then only care if covid affected me?

Yes you are allowed to vent, respectfully. Not everyone who got vaccinated is a sheep. Not everyone who didnt is an antivaxx "murderer" as you put it.

As Ive said in multiple other threads. I have lost 8 people to this lockup. 2 were covid, 4 suicides, 2 car accidents. Would you accept it if I said. YOU @chuckles_the_cnt , have pushed the hysteria, YOU caused loss and depression amongst my people, YOU empowered the government in killing my friends. Would that be fair of me?

I dont believe it would. So maybe sit in everyones chair before judging and pointing fingers

 

[Ragnarök]

seriously... why are so many pro vaccine people such fffffken pricks? regardless of facts, stats, numbers...

if you want it get. and leave everyone else to make their own choice. Do you take a selfy when you put money in the collection plate at church?

Does the vaccine make you this way? were you already this way? how??

I think most are pi$$ed off , the vaccine is not doing what they have been sold on

 

[rh1]

nice - so no means of knowing then, i guess the dead don't post eh?

no fronting, just a chuckable to sate morbid curiosity, guage the "longevity" of the thread you know. i reckon it'll eventually die off, slowly though.

no love lost for antivaxxers, they can all shove off , the world be "healthier" place for it.

So does this include your family members who are not vaccinated?

Because currently 82% of South Africans are not vaccinated:

1​	SA population reaches 58,8 million | Statistics South Africa www.statssa.gov.za
2​	Latest Vaccine Statistics - SA Corona Virus Online Portal sacoronavirus.co.za
3​	South African Population - Number of South African who are Vaccinated

 

[buchanan8]

I reckon SA will get to about 30-40% vaccinated, tops. There just doesn't appear to be widespread enthusiasm for it in the greater population. After the initial take-up in each age group, it seems interest quite quickly fades (or never really catches on). Most don't bother. So we are going to have plenty of pro-vaxxers in a constant state of frothing-at-the-mouth anger at the other 60-70% of the country's citizens.

 

[rh1]

imagine a world with less short sightedness, it'll be glorious ! +1 humanity long term.

until they're not living anymore eh.


guess the amount of people we lost due to antivax notions kinda rubs one up the wrong way.

I dont believe you, if you were personally affected, you would probably have used your main account and not created a troll account named 'chukles_the_cnt.

I have made an informed decision based on the facts/information presented to me:
1. Does COVID exist?
Yes, I lost an aunt who was in her 70s, not sure exact age but my mother who is much younger than her is 72.

2. Are some people at higher risk than others:
Yes, so far my wife lost an aunt, I lost an aunt, a good friend on mine, lost her father. All three, were elderly, age 65+.

3. What are the chances of South African surviving COVID?
My calculation put it at 99.831% percent chance of surviving COVID

4. So why should you vaccinate:
From WHO FAQ:
"The current evidence shows that vaccines provide some protection from infection and transmission, but that protection is less than that for serious illness and death. "
Source: WHO

My take is that until more information is provided, I will take my calculated 99.831% chance that I will survive the virus should I contract it. The vaccine does help prevent death. This is why the elderly was vaccinated as they are the highest at risk of death. Secondly, we still don't know the long term repercussions if any and this should be weighed up against your own risk of dying. I generally trust my immune system to handle the virus and I am quite sure I had it already last year but tested to early after exposure to someone with the disease (i.e. a false negative result). So even if you take the vaccine, it will still knock you out, see first bolded sentence. So the question remain, will it reduce my risk of dying from 0,169% to 0%? I dont think so, so I am comfortable to take the risk.

We have not physically interacted with friends, family & colleagues. Trips are limited to quick shopping trips.

 

[mojoman]

Chuckles is gone...

 

[Cosmik Debris]

It has to do with a discussion on whether passports constitute an impingement upon one's freedom.

Sort of an intellectual debate the other guy started, way beneath your impeccable skills in articulation though, so move right along.

There is a philosophical thread for that where I do engage in intellectual debate. Yet to see you there. This thread is the non vaccination brag thread. Feel free to open a freedoms and passport debate thread in the philosophy section...

 

[Cosmik Debris]

So probably wont be going anytime soon for the vaccination, unless it becomes critical in terms of job requirement or travel requirements. My reason is as follows:

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1​	SA population reaches 58,8 million | Statistics South Africa www.statssa.gov.za
2​	80% of South Africans may have already had Covid-19: Discovery As many as four out of five South Africans may have contracted the coronavirus, indicating that the country may be one of the world’s hardest-hit nations by the disease, the chief actuary at Africa’s biggest health insurer said. businesstech.co.za
3​	Update On Covid-19 (Sunday 22 August 2021) - SA Corona Virus Online Portal sacoronavirus.co.za
4​	Number of Confirmed Covid Deaths / 80% of South African Population x 100 = % of Death to Estimated Number of Infections
5​	100% - Answer determined in 4 above = Current South African chances of surviving COVID

Edit: It is called making an informed choice. This is subject to change as new information come to light.

Death is the best result from Covid. What all are ignoring is the massive damage to the kidneys, liver, heart. arteries, spleen and renin antiogensin system which will cost you plenty in future medical fees and require long term care. A lot of the damage can be easily avoided with the vax.

 

[R13...]

So does this include your family members who are not vaccinated?

Because currently 82% of South Africans are not vaccinated:
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1​	SA population reaches 58,8 million | Statistics South Africa www.statssa.gov.za
2​	Latest Vaccine Statistics - SA Corona Virus Online Portal sacoronavirus.co.za
3​	South African Population - Number of South African who are Vaccinated

You shouldn't be counting <18s

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Never.
If you are boiled slowly enough you will never realize you were boiled.
So sit back, chill, enjoy the freedoms you still enjoy cause your grand kids will never know wtf freedom is.

Its already so far gone we barely know what freedom is. Our freedom is the freedom to go a store. And if they have their way, soon not even that will be an option without a passport of sorts.

Then go build yourself a bunker and join the preppers.

 

[Daveogg]

I dont believe you, if you were personally affected, you would probably have used your main account and not created a troll account named 'chukles_the_cnt.

I have made an informed decision based on the facts/information presented to me:
1. Does COVID exist?
Yes, I lost an aunt who was in her 70s, not sure exact age but my mother who is much younger than her is 72.

2. Are some people at higher risk than others:
Yes, so far my wife lost an aunt, I lost an aunt, a good friend on mine, lost her father. All three, were elderly, age 65+.

3. What are the chances of South African surviving COVID?
My calculation put it at 99.831% percent chance of surviving COVID

4. So why should you vaccinate:
From WHO FAQ:
"The current evidence shows that vaccines provide some protection from infection and transmission, but that protection is less than that for serious illness and death. "
Source: WHO

My take is that until more information is provided, I will take my calculated 99.831% chance that I will survive the virus should I contract it. The vaccine does help prevent death. This is why the elderly was vaccinated as they are the highest at risk of death. Secondly, we still don't know the long term repercussions if any and this should be weighed up against your own risk of dying. I generally trust my immune system to handle the virus and I am quite sure I had it already last year but tested to early after exposure to someone with the disease (i.e. a false negative result). So even if you take the vaccine, it will still knock you out, see first bolded sentence. So the question remain, will it reduce my risk of dying from 0,169% to 0%? I dont think so, so I am comfortable to take the risk.

We have not physically interacted with friends, family & colleagues. Trips are limited to quick shopping trips.

When you got your sums wrong at school, you got a poor mark and a "try harder next time", now its much more serious.
Your calculations are based on very poor logic. In science you generally get more value from trying to prove your hypothesis wrong than to confirm it.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

it is completely absurd what we allowed to happen ....

You have 60% of the population that is mortally ‘afraid’ that this virus is going to kill them, pointing finger at the other 40% that is “dumb”. The ‘afraid’ supporting the authorities to let those that doesn’t conform to ‘suffer the consequences’ ie. lose their jobs, freedom etc.

And all of this as a result of a virus with a mortality rate of 0.3% (IFR)? (not even but we won't go there)

Meantime you have the guys that is orchestrating all of this, who engineered the virus and the flawed tests and vaccine, sitting on the side-line, laughing their asses off at the distracted imbeciles fighting each other …..

Divide and conquer … the oldest warfare principle.


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Yet you have an ID document, tax number, drivers licence, pay a car licence fee, entered into an employment and accommodation contract, buy food using debit or credit card, have medical aid and comply with laws?

Then you go and say "They" aren't going to control you by making you get a vaccine? Yet you voluntarily gave in to "them" already?

 

[Rosaudio]

According to an internal CDC document there may be no difference in transmissibility between vaccinated and unvaccinated cases.

"Delta variant vaccine breakthrough cases may be as transmissible as unvaccinated cases"

▪ Breakthrough cases reported to national passive surveillance have lower Ct values by 3 cycles (~10-fold increase in viral load) for Delta (Ct=18, n=19) compared with Alpha (Ct=21, n=207) and other lineages (Ct=21, n=251)
▪ Barnstable County, MA, outbreak: No difference in mean Ct values in vaccinated and unvaccinated cases [median among vaccinated (n=80): 21.9; unvaccinated (n=65): 21.5]

https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/54f57708-a529-4a33-9a44-b66d719070d9/note/7335c3ab-06ee-4121-aaff-a11904e68462.#page=1

Oh so now you believe the CDC?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Boiling frog - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

To hopefully put this to bed once and for all

Now look what you did to my avatar...