Novel CoronaVirus (COVID-19) Updates & Discussion

[LD50]

2 weeks, in 2 weeks time we'll be flooded, mark my words.

The chances of you and me getting it are very high. What bothers me is my 71 year old mother living with me. If she gets it from one of us in the family she has an 8% chance of dieing.

 

[LD50]

Another thing that bothers me is that the health dept. is so concerned about the front door that they are forgetting about the back door...our borders. Angola for one ?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

I don't care. I cant control if other people are wearing masks or if they block their mouths whilst coughing.

I will also throw the mask away after usage & constantly use hand sanitizer.

Use soap, not hand sanitizer. The virus has a fatty membrane around it that dissolves in soap.

 

[quovadis]

It's an interesting question as it's been proven to be transmitted in a 37 degree C environment. I know it looks like it's affecting cooler climates disproportionately but I think that may be a red herring. There are other factors, for instance, did you know that vitamin D plays an important role in suppressing respiratory infections and populations that are inherently low on vitamin D (as they would be at the end of winter) are likely slightly more susceptible? I also suspect that there are multiple strains, some of which are more virulent, and there may be cultural aspects such as the Italians habit of frequently kissing each other in greeting.

Environment plays a role for viruses due to general behaviour eg. people staying indoors with poor ventilation in winter, droplets not drying out as quickly or staying airborne for longer due to humidity etc. As far as Vitamins - a persons immune system is quite unique to each person and their diet, fitness and a plethora of factors will determine how they respond to any infection - taking Vitamin D may assist with viral supression in frequency or severity (as with many other things) but there is no recommendation or consensus. COVID19 *is* a strain - it won't be COVID19 if it's a different strain of Coronavirus.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Meh. I doubt any other president would have behaved much differently, or that Trump really has that much influence over the process, anyway.

There are comparable situations - did they do it during the Ebola, SARS, MERS or Swine Flu outbreaks?

And are you saying Trump doesn't know what his own White House is doing?

 

[Verde]

How can you stop it from spreading now? The virus has already reached 122+ countries and none of them have managed to stop it as yet. Some countries like Singapore and Taiwan have managed to keep it from spreading out of control but they seem to be losing the battle with the number of new cases starting to increase.

There are cases where one infected person has spread the virus to as many as 100 people in as little as 10 days. I think we could even see something worse than Wuhan or Lombardy over here unless there is some unexpected factor such as temperature or race etc. why it doesn't kill as many people.

China has stopped it. Not just one, but multiple outbreaks. New cases are less than 50 per day the last few days (think about their achievement a bit, they represent 20% of humanity), compared to the 5000 or more at the height of the outbreaks.
Containment, at least for now, comes at a huge economic cost though.

 

[quovadis]

China has stopped it. Not just one, but multiple outbreaks. New cases are less than 50 per day the last few days (think about their achievement a bit, they represent 20% of humanity), compared to the 5000 or more at the height of the outbreaks.
Containment, at least for now, comes at a huge economic cost though.

China had an outbreak due to lack of action on the part of the Chinese government resulting in mass infection over an extended period of time. Because the confirmed infection rate has slowed is progress but cannot be interpreted as them being any more successful than other countries and neither can it be interpreted as stopping anything.

 

[Jola]

Use soap, not hand sanitizer. The virus has a fatty membrane around it that dissolves in soap.

Decent hand sanitisers are supposed to contain 60-70% alcohol, which does the same.

Probably preferable to wash your hands properly, but that is not always possible. For example, when you are in your car, or out and about.

 

[LD50]

Decent hand sanitisers are supposed to contain 60-70% alcohol, which does the same.

Probably preferable to wash your hands properly, but that is not always possible. For example, when you are in your car, or out and about.

Then don't touch your face. We have to change behaviour. It needs to come from how we focus on things. Get more aware..

 

[Grant]

Which you change often and never touch face etc so not as effective either.

Which you wear when in public traveling from point a to point b. At point b you dispose of gloves and wash.

 

[Vorastra]

Use soap, not hand sanitizer. The virus has a fatty membrane around it that dissolves in soap.

Which is why hand sanitisers with at least 60% alcohol content is recommended by the CDC.

 

[Jola]

Then don't touch your face. We have to change behaviour. It needs to come from how we focus on things. Get more aware..

Yeah, not touching your face is difficult.

But it is said that this virus survives for up to 12 hours on most surfaces, so touching anything and then your face is a big no.

I have even seen suggestions that you need to clean your airplane tray with an alcohol wipe before you sit down.

But there are many issues, touching cash, credit cards, etc, etc, etc.

In Iran they tried to discourage people from using cash.

It's almost impossible. But you just have to do your best.

 

[LD50]

Which you wear when in public traveling from point a to point b. At point b you dispose of gloves and wash.

And of mask. Some people think you can just wear the same mask day in and out

 

[Jake45]

China has stopped it. Not just one, but multiple outbreaks. New cases are less than 50 per day the last few days (think about their achievement a bit, they represent 20% of humanity), compared to the 5000 or more at the height of the outbreaks.
Containment, at least for now, comes at a huge economic cost though.

The problem is that at some point China has to get back to normal again and they will need to stay vigilant to prevent reinfection from other countries. I don't see a quick fix for this global pandemic unless a vaccine or another effective treatment can be developed very soon.

 

[LD50]

Yeah, not touching your face is difficult.

But it is said that this virus survives for up to 12 hours on most surfaces, so touching anything and then your face is a big no.

I have even seen suggestions that you need to clean your airplane tray with an alcohol wipe before you sit down.

But there are many issues, touching cash, credit cards, etc, etc, etc.

In Iran they tried to discourage people from using cash.

It's almost impossible. But you just have to do your best.

Oh geez it's as easy as touching a door while opening and closing it in an office.
Everybody else touched it in the same spots

 

[The_Mowgs]

I don't care. I cant control if other people are wearing masks or if they block their mouths whilst coughing.

I will also throw the mask away after usage & constantly use hand sanitizer.

Jissus you are not listening to what you are being told! Are you going to wear eye protection also? If you have such a compromised immune system why are you flying somewhere?

Is it really necessary to fly somewhere now? Major companies have already suspended any and all air travel for a reason.

 

[Grant]

And of mask. Some people think you can just wear the same mask day in and out

These things are disposable single use items. The mind boggles at the stupidity of multiple use.

 

[Jola]

Oh geez it's as easy as touching a door while opening and closing it in an office.
Everybody else touched it in the same spots

Yeah, exactly. Pressing a button in a lift or parking garage.

That is why China, and Italy, have been keeping people isolated.

But many people just won't listen, and controlling them as the Chinese do is not usually possible.

 

[LD50]

These things are disposable single use items. The mind boggles at the stupidity of multiple use.

The mind should not get boggledd

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Trump fears emergency declaration would contradict coronavirus message

Trump is concerned that declaring an emergency would hamper his narrative that the coronavirus is similar to the seasonal flu.

www.politico.com

Trump’s concern at this point is that going further could hamper his narrative that the coronavirus is similar to the seasonal flu...

There’s no deadline for a decision, but one of the people familiar with the talks said the task force will not give Trump its final verdict until Jared Kushner, the president’s senior adviser and son-in-law, finishes his research and comes to a conclusion himself.

Fresh off solving the Middle East, Jared will now solve COVID-19.