Novel CoronaVirus (COVID-19) Updates & Discussion

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thestaggy

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Pegasus said:
Magic Johnson was also huge. That was 1991. He is still around.
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I know and I don't want to turn this in to the victim Olympics. Elizabeth Taylor started the first high-profile HIV/Aids activism campaign in the US in 1985 after Hudson - her friend - broke news of his illness. Within days of his death and the public reaction, congress finally woke up and pledged over $200 million to research. It was the wake-up call.

Magic Johnson just finally put to rest the myth that only gays and druggies could get it.
 
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Mila said:
What about the big whatsapp going around about using Vitamin C?
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It's misinformation. Vitamin C doesn't give you as much of an immune system response as people suggest, but it does help relieve some symptoms. It's going to do jack **** against COVID-19.

Mila said:
Am I the only one thinking social media and the media in general is making this thing bigger than it is?
Yes it is very dangerous but it seems like such an over reaction for the amount of people dying
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You're not the only one, but that's also the wrong response to have to a pandemic, especially one that's this contagious. Every major pandemic since the invention of the printing press has seen this happen.
  1. Politicians ignore the problem.
  2. The media hypes it up both to sell news and to warn people of the dangers.
  3. The curve is flattened as enough people who see sense in the hype make themselves less of a target for infection.
  4. Most people end up surviving.
Like others, you also look at the stats of the number of people dead and think it's not as big of an issue compared to, say, yearly flu deaths. But the flu infects far more people in the tens of million range every year, and less than 5% of those infected have severe symptoms thanks to modern medicine and flu shots. Less than 0.3% of the total infected from flu will die.

Not only does SARS-CoV-2 have a high transmission rate, it's also guaranteed to return at least once like MERS and SARS did. And, rather selfishly, you're not thinking of the people that are refused treatment because they're either considered too far gone, or have no space in the hospital set aside for them in an intensive care unit. This is going to have major repercussions for the mortality rate of other diseases, and an economic impact that is still coming.

Mila said:
Maybe I'ts just not close to home yet, but it all feels a bit hysterical.
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Yours is a natural reaction, but you have to take it seriously. This is the rustle in the grass that you think is just the wind, but is in fact a predator.

rietrot said:
The vaccine will likely be a hit and miss, much like the normal flue shot that isn't very effective.
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The flu shot is tremendously effective in either giving you a natural immunity thanks to the right antibodies already being present, or it lessens your symptoms and transmission to others because your body can start fighting it sooner. It's the strains that you aren't vaccinated for that arrive in your area after a shot is administered that you might contract.

Even then, most people conflate the symptoms of many coronaviruses and other viruses that give you flu-like symptoms, and thus they believe that it doesn't work.

rietrot said:
Vaccines work for once off things like all the children's diseases... were you build up a immunity and have it forever.
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Also not true. Vaccines against stuff like polio are more effective than, say, the measles vaccine because polio doesn't mutate that much, whereas measles mutates quite a bit and requires a booster in adults to maintain that protection. Vaccines only appear to be effective as once-off things because:
  1. Our medicine is more advanced
  2. Hygiene is better
  3. Our water is vastly cleaner than it was 50, even 100 years ago
  4. Herd immunity adds an additional layer of protection
pinball wizard said:
The science suggests that most coronavirus (SARS, MERS etc) all undergo negative mutations making them less of a threat to humans.
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It does at least not get more effective after transmission in humans, but the chance of a mutation that increases its effectiveness is always there. SARS-CoV-2 was likely incubated in bats, which have a seriously strong immune system, requiring the virus to mutate rapidly to survive and spread to more hosts.
 
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thestaggy said:
I know and I don't want to turn this in to the victim Olympics. Elizabeth Taylor started the first high-profile HIV/Aids activism campaign in the US in 1985 after Hudson - her friend - broke news of his illness. Within days of his death and the public reaction, congress finally woke up and pledged over $200 million to research. It was the wake-up call.

Magic Johnson just finally put to rest the myth that only gays and druggies could get it.
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My dad managed to win the victim olympics back then. He was a huge Rock Hudson fan. He didn’t know he was gay.
 
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US is so screwed. It's like watching a high-speed train crash in slow motion. IT will make the Italian crash look like a cute car bump
 
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dualmeister said:
Global recession fears intensify as Trump's Europe ban fails to reassure

A dramatic attempt by Donald Trump to limit the spread of coronavirus by banning travel to the US from most of Europe for 30 days has failed to stem heavy losses on financial markets and prompted one top economist to warn that a global recession was now “highly probable”.
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I think as the virus spreads in USA it's going to be a massacre on the markets and their economy as the panic spreads
 
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World starts to shut down due to pandemic.

Response is, how much money are we going to lose.
 
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