Nqakula makes WC 2010 a racial issue

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

As usual he's talking complete rubbish. If he looks at Europe, which is the powerhouse in soccer, it has a white majority in teams.

JOHANNESBURG – Is security around the 2010 Soccer World Cup being questioned because South Africa has a majority black government? Addressing the National Community Police Forum in Midrand yesterday, Minister of Safety and Security Charles Nqakula asked why security concerns were never an issue when it came to international “white” sporting events, such as rugby and cricket, being staged in SA. Nqakula said: “We don’t want to go back to the conflicts of the past” where black and white were pitted against each other, but asked “Do we want people to say it is because it is not the white man’s sport, but soccer, the black man’s sport?” Nqakula faced an outcry earlier this year after the police annual crime statistics were released. Some said South Africa was not ready to stage the international showcase for soccer, due to high crime levels.

Yesterday the Minister admitted that levels of violent crime were “unacceptably high”, but pointed out that they had been on the decline since 1995. At the time the police statistics were released it was suggested Fifa was considering moving the World Cup to Australia. Regarding such suggestions, Nqakula asked: “Is it because in South Africa the government of the day is a predominantly black one, and in Australia it is a predominantly white government?” Nqakula joked that “We have lots of psychics” who were “predicting” high crime levels during the 2010 Soccer World Cup. He asked why they could not warn him before a crime took place.

In answer to criticism Nqakula said the restructuring of the police force was intended to allay security fears. A study done in 2005 at station level into police resources had revealed a serious capacity problem. “Despite the fact that there are people on the ground with skills, what is lacking is management skills,” said Nqakula.
He emphasised that the community had a central role to play in fighting crime.

Source: Citizen

 

[Nod]

Soccer is mainly watched by hooligans, as proven by the countless problems locally and overseas, caused by spectators, i.e. looting, stampeding, etc. So yes, security will be a bigger issue than with rugby or cricket.

 

[kingmonty]

There are few more passionate than a Football Fan.

 

[DigitalSoldier]

Aaaah there it is the first step towards moving away from the smear campaign excuse.

 

[TonyA]

Soccer/Football tends to have a much larger audience than rugby or cricket

 

[supersunbird]

That goddamn mother****er! Its not in decline! Maybe it was back in 2004 but look at our statistics in Garsfontein @ .... Damn SAPS website is down so I cant paste the link! Anyway, most of the serious crimes in our area are up a lot, and back at the high 2001 levels...

 

[Angelo]

As usual he's talking complete rubbish. If he looks at Europe, which is the powerhouse in soccer, it has a white majority in teams.



Source: Citizen

He is making it into a race issue? Dominic don't make me laugh, he's just making an observation that some of us had already made even here in the forum. He's just telling it like it is like many black people, the only difference is that he is a minister.

 

[diabolus]

I think the poor minister was almost there, missed the part where it's well known that the worst run and most incompetent governments and countries on this planet is BLACK governments. (i mean just look at the DRC...they simply do NOT know how to stop fighting!! morons)

So obviously based on that little trivia, isn't it easy to assume that any large global event hosted by a BLACK majority [instead of white in the case of rugby/cricket in the past] would make alot of people nervous??.... Nevermind security, EVERYTHING surrounding the "management" of the event is going to be scrutinized and people will be skeptical about it, for exactly the reason given the first paragraph....

To put it this way, if the 2010 is a major success, i can guarantee you the ANC and the BLACK nation will see that as a victory in the sense that they can do whatever whites can do (without the whites). But if it's a failure, whites will be blamed...

 

[DigitalSoldier]

He is making it into a race issue? Dominic don't make me laugh, he's just making an observation that some of us had already made even here in the forum. He's just telling it like it is like many black people, the only difference is that he is a minister.

Or maybe he knows he cant do what he is suppose to do ?

Lets go back a few years to the 1980's when we had Brazil a latin-american country they did host the world cup and they are neither white or black.

This is just a stupid minister and those who believe what he says are just as stupid as him, knowing he cant do what he is supposed to he is already searching for a scapegoat.

 

[Dovi]

Good - claime it's a racial issue. FIFA will notice how our government loves focusing on minute and irrelevant issues.

 

[Syndyre]

If these idiots spent half as much time sorting out crime as they did putting out press releases trying to explain it away we might not have such a problem.

 

[TonyA]

Making excuses now so that when it happens in 2010 can pass the buck and blame whites for lack of support causing failure!

 

[nocilah]

He is making it into a race issue?

read below, perhaps this smaller nugget of information is easier for you to comprehend or read. take your time i understand exerting such thought is painful.

Is security around the 2010 Soccer World Cup being questioned because South Africa has a majority black government?

The above quote is your traditional south african: lets pull the race card out.

 

[DigitalSoldier]

read below, perhaps this smaller nugget of information is easier for you to comprehend or read. take your time i understand exerting such thought is painful.

ROFL!!

 

[Nick333]

I actually don't know enough about whats been done in preparation for the world cup, so I don't actually have an opinion on whether or South Africa (which means us I guess) will succeed or fail in the attempt. I haven't actually seen very much convincing evidence to conclude that we will to be honest, but anyway...

I agree with Angelo that what the minister asked is a valid question. Many of us on here have asked the question before. It could never be used as an excuse in the event that we do fail.
"We failed because our ability to succeed was questioned on the grounds of race." You see? Even our government couldn't hope to get away with that one.

Anyway I'm just pointing this out for the sake of keeping things real instead of running off at a tangent. I mean diabolus has pretty much voiced the type of opinion that the minister is addressing, its not unreasonable to believe that this is the type of opinion behind all the nay saying.

 

[supersunbird]

Yesterday the Minister admitted that levels of violent crime were “unacceptably high”, but pointed out that they had been on the decline since 1995. At the time the police statistics were released it was suggested Fifa was considering moving the World Cup to Australia.

Here is the proof that he is lying:

http://www.saps.gov.za/statistics/r...df/provinces/gauteng/pretoria/garsfontein.pdf

Lots of serious crime has gone up, while admittedly some other crimes have gone down.

Look up your own stations stats here: http://www.saps.gov.za/statistics/reports/crimestats/2006/province.htm

 

[TELESPHORE]

The soccer WC 2010 is a big event for the country. The direct economical and financial gain is not going to be much, but the esteem for SA to be able to handle complex situations like these are paramount for more confidence in SA from the outside world. SA is not an island and never was.

We cannot afford to make excuses or falter in this project. So much effort in transformation has been done and this is the acid test if that is indeed a success as the numbers suggest. By making excuses beforehand it does leave the impression all is not well.

General statements that plan is on track is not good enough. Being a National Pride project, the information should be flowing on at least a weekly basis on the process and the deviation. Each hitch should be made public immediately.

 

[MyDraadloos]

Can't wait for them to blame it on Apartheid afterwards ........ this is going to be a fcukup of monumental proportions.

There will be loads of money to be made for whoever has a last minute fix for the things they "will" get wrong.

 

[diabolus]

Lots of serious crime has gone up, while admittedly some other crimes have gone down.

Look up your own stations stats here: http://www.saps.gov.za/statistics/re...6/province.htm

Yea, it's interesting to note if you look at "middle to high" class areas on there, all the violent crimes are spiking [rape/attempted murder/hijacking].

Then look at places like Hillbrow/Alexandra , crime has dropped "dramatically" [i actually wonder how correct it is and whether it's a case of no Officer willing to go there to check ] . In the end we get to see the "average" and then it looks like things are improving, but middle-high class are actually carrying the brunt of the crime . But due to lower population in these areas it actually looks like crime as a whole is decreasing...

Example:
Murder in Hilbrow DEcreased from 140 to 107
Murder in Garsfontein INcreased from 4 to 9 . [that's like DOUBLE]

Now as a whole based on numbers [not per area], guess what, murder rate will look like it dropped, but surely it's not telling the real story?

It is clear however that violent crime is increasing. Where you see the "Common Robbery" rate drop, you will see the "Robbery with aggravating circumstances" suddenly spiking.

 

[Angelo]

read below, perhaps this smaller nugget of information is easier for you to comprehend or read. take your time i understand exerting such thought is painful.



The above quote is your traditional south african: lets pull the race card out.

What I'm saying is that it was already a race issue...it's not the minister making it into one ****!