Nvidia’s New 4000-Series PC Graphics Cards Revealed (Too Damn Expensive)

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Today, after many months of leaks, rumors, and speculation, Nvidia finally officially revealed its next generation of graphics cards, the RTX 4000 series. While new graphics upgrades are welcome—the RTX 3000 series is now over two years old—Nvidia’s decision to charge massive premiums for the new-generation GPUs, as well as engaging in arguably deceptive naming practices, is not going over well with many PC enthusiasts.

Indeed, in 2018, Nvidia attracted criticism for pricing its then-new RTX 20-series cards a full “tier” higher than the previous 10-series cards had cost. For example, the RTX 2070 cost almost as much as the prior high-end GTX 1080, despite being less of a flagship card. Today we’re seeing a similar tier-jumping phenomenon take shape.

The MSRP of the 10GB RTX 3080 Founder’s Edition—assuming you could find one, during the crypto-mining hell of the last two years—was $699. Now Nvidia’s revealed a 16GB RTX 4080, which many observers take to be the closest to a true 3080 successor, for a whopping $1199—an increase of $500.

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Nvidia’s New 4000-Series PC Graphics Cards Are Too Damn Expensive

Are graphics cards like the just-revealed RTX 4090 and RTX 4080s becoming unaffordable?
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Kinda saw this coming, everyone was going wait for the 4 series cards, it'll drop the price of the 3 series... I'm glad I didn't and got a decent 3070ti price in May
 
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Lupus said:
Kinda saw this coming, everyone was going wait for the 4 series cards, it'll drop the price of the 3 series... I'm glad I didn't and got a decent 3070ti price in May
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3000 series cards are still dropping. Mining is dead after ETH merge so there is a massive surplus slowly hitting the market now. While many are holding on, trying to mine different coins, as soon as they start mining, the difficulty goes up and makes the coin unprofitable. Soon they will realize the best thing to do is just sell their cards while thy can.

A good example is Ravecoin which was touted by some as the "next ETH".

As soon as people started mining, the hashrate went crazy:

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And as of today you will lose money mining it:

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I think Nvidia's crazy pricing is pretty insignificant in the face of the massive oversupply and small demand at current prices.

I predict used GPU prices will continue to fall which will make Nvidia's latest pricing look even more bizarre.

Monumentally stupid decision by Nvidia. It's like if a baker sold stale bread for full price and fresh bread for double the price and every time he makes new bread he doubles the price again. That's just crazy and cannot be sustained.

Let's hope AMD makes some better choices.
 
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Price is irrelevant. As long as it performs better than the RTX 3000 series, people will buy it to the point where it will need to be pre-ordered to secure one.
 
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Regardless of price i guarantee you there will be a mad dash for these cards and they will fly off the shelf faster than they will be produced.

Nvidia might have learned a few lessons from the 30 series launch and hopefully its not a total disaster like that was but lets see.
 
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For me it's come to a point where this doesn't matter at all.
All the games I play (and it seems most of the world play) don't need this much horsepower. I'm already getting high FPS on my 3060ti(and 3060ti now very cheap).

Has it come to a point where graphics are secondary to gameplay? I hope so.

Games that has remotely stressed my 3060ti are unoptimized pigs such has BF2042 which looks worse than six year old BF1.

Sure I would love another Battlefield game that looks amazing but if it performs like BF2042 everyone would need a $1000 GPU and people are stretched financially. That one game is not worth $1000.

Add to that in SA we don't have local servers so gaming can be frustrating with high pings even with that $3000 rig. One wonders, why spend big money on a GPU? Besides to show of in a forum signature?
 
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I know pc is the "Master" race but damn R20k for a pretty picture..... rather stick with my PS5 then
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Same here; I'm happy with my Xbox S, and plan on a PS5 at the end of the year.
 
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ProfA said:
Price is irrelevant. As long as it performs better than the RTX 3000 series, people will buy it to the point where it will need to be pre-ordered to secure one.
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You aren't wrong. The prices will keep climbing until the market (consumers) start rejecting the pricing and stop buying.

This isn't even a recent thing, the prices of GPUs have been climbing at an incredible rate all the way back to 900 series (and even before). Then when the 1080 Ti came out, we hit an insane price point (R15000 for us), but it flew off the shelves. Consumers sent a strong message, they'll eat almost any price to have the best. Each generation, that message continues to get sent.

Brand loyalty, AMD not quite catching Nvidia, frenzied consumers buying at any cost. That's how we've ended up here with these prices.
 
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Blackhand said:
Consumers sent a strong message, they'll eat almost any price to have the best.
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Wasn't consumers, it was miners and companies (e.g. Video editing).

Normal consumers buy at a price point, not at a performance level, as long as not burnt by performance.
 
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Brawler said:
For me it's come to a point where this doesn't matter at all.
All the games I play (and it seems most of the world play) don't need this much horsepower. I'm already getting high FPS on my 3060ti(and 3060ti now very cheap).

Has it come to a point where graphics are secondary to gameplay? I hope so.

Games that has remotely stressed my 3060ti are unoptimized pigs such has BF2042 which looks worse than six year old BF1.

Sure I would love another Battlefield game that looks amazing but if it performs like BF2042 everyone would need a $1000 GPU and people are stretched financially. That one game is not worth $1000.

Add to that in SA we don't have local servers so gaming can be frustrating with high pings even with that $3000 rig. One wonders, why spend big money on a GPU? Besides to show of in a forum signature?
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Each to their own i guess ,

i on the other hand enjoy running my games at 4k with my 4k 165hz lg monitor , so i will be first in line to upgrade to the 4090 as soon as i can find one available , will be nice to not have to turn down settings for higher fps and run them at full tilt.
 
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Will be interesting to see how team Red responds to this. Rumors suggest AMD manufacturing costs for 7000 series not that much higher than 6000 series. Nvidia seems to want performance title at the expense of basically everything else. Btw regarding the performance claims they make. Made similar claims for 30 series.

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