Nxesi warns of militant labour, more unprotected strikes as SA hits over 4m union members

[R13...]

Numbers are related to workers seeing the value in their membership, if they didn't the numbers would be going down, not up.

Anecdote: I went to a week event some months back and unions were given an opportunity to speak about a specific matter. What happened instead? A group of union members sang/danced up to the stage, and then moaned about unrelated stuff. Seems there's a manager they don't like so they used the opportunities to throw around some innuendos without coming out and saying names.

 

[BBSA]

Robots are starting to make more and more sense.

 

[surface]

How do you manage to consistently post such stupid takes?

aww, same to you.

 

[mojoman]

Sure they are.

Much like one is free to pay the protection money or get one's shop torched.

Looks like we even have chicken feet mafia these days so ja, best pay up....

 

[Pegasus]

aww, same to you.

Really? Well maybe read a post before replying to it with something completely unrelated. Less people will call you stupid that way.

 

[porchrat]

Robots are starting to make more and more sense.

That's a good way to get your factory burnt to the ground.

 

[TheChamp]

There is also a heavy intimidation element in terms of Union membership... so its not just a case of "value in membership" unless you classify not being beaten up as "value in membership"

The intimidation is mostly as far as strikes are concerned, subscription is your choice as worker, with money being this tight no one would use a good R100 to join if they did not feel like it, that's why we still have a large number of bargaining workers who are not unionised, that number Nxesi is talking about are maybe less than half of the total number of eligible workers.

 

[BBSA]

That's a good way to get your factory burnt to the ground.

Will first move said factory from this shithole.

 

[surface]

Really? Well maybe read a post before replying to it with something completely unrelated. Less people will call you stupid that way.

Did you read Champ's post before asking him (indirectly) to stop burning & looting? Or did you just make certain racist assumptions based on your high IQ mind ?

 

[porchrat]

Will first move said factory from this shithole.

Yea the unions are still trying to figure out how to remotely burn down factories. Think you might have stumped them there.

 

[mojoman]

Did you read Champ's post before asking him (indirectly) to stop burning & looting? Or did you just make certain racist assumptions based on your high IQ mind ?

Monday arvie lols starting now..

 

[porchrat]

The intimidation is mostly as far as strikes are concerned

Well if it's only where the strikes are concerned it's alright then.

Phew, I thought these unions were out of line for a moment there.

 

[TheChamp]

Well if it's only where the strikes are concerned it's alright then.

Phew, I thought these unions were out of line for a moment there.

Yes, no one goes around forcing anyone to sign up, people even wait until they are in trouble with the employer before they feel the need to join the union.

 

[RonSwanson]

How do you manage to consistently post such kak?

FTFY

 

[RonSwanson]

Did you read Champ's post before asking him (indirectly) to stop burning & looting? Or did you just make certain racist assumptions based on your high IQ mind ?

Did you ever read anyone's posts before implying your worn out, same old, same old narrative that they are jobless or in Perth? Your story so tired, over 20 years old now, it wasn't funny then and still isn't.
Please Trevor, try to be a bit more original, at least that way we can laugh at your stupidity instead of being bored to death by it.

 

[Big Rat]

The numbers, I am not talking about militancy. Yes, I have always got an increase every year at my employer until some fatcat CEO showed his face here and started coming up with creative ways of ensuring that we went years without an increase, while introducing some unachievable metrics for bonuses for workers. It was the not a norm for our union to go to court to enforce signed agreements that were usually honoured without drama.

Yes it was the first time in recent history where the government simply reneged on a signed offer with unions representing the public sector workers.

Employers latched on to Covid to save money even though they could afford salary increases. The fatcat executives salaries has been forever going up while the workers got nothing or minimal increases.

And I don't understand why you would talk about the apartheid regime, of course workers feared that regime, nothing was normal about that time and it should never be used as a measure of anything. Even if the work environment was hostile and they were unhappy what would they do? It was o ly the brave who would join the unions be ause it was a huge risk.

We are now free and workers are able to join or not join the union as they please, you can now attach some meaning to the trends as they happen.

I would like to think this is what is suppose to happen.
But...
Striking before the meeting is even announced, so why you strike without us even knowing what you wanted?
Then, you ask the impossible, high percentages, increased lunch time, blah blah, things that the company simply cannot entertain. then hell breaks loose even further.
I just do not see where cool heads gather, and discuss properly, it is always violence.

The unions might have had a good start like your post Champ, but recently it sure does not fit their agenda to accept a good offer.

 

[TheChamp]

I would like to think this is what is suppose to happen.
But...
Striking before the meeting is even announced, so why you strike without us even knowing what you wanted?
Then, you ask the impossible, high percentages, increased lunch time, blah blah, things that the company simply cannot entertain. then hell breaks loose even further.
I just do not see where cool heads gather, and discuss properly, it is always violence.

The unions might have had a good start like your post Champ, but recently it sure does not fit their agenda to accept a good offer.

Not really, between these two months, September and October, AMCU signed a deal with Sibanye at Rustenburg and Marikana, Transnet also concluded a deal with unions, the private security unions also concluded a deal, NUMSA signed a deal in the automotive sector.

Those are big unions yet they were able to reach an agreement with employers, without any violence, and not like the increases they got are going to collapse the respective employers.

 

[Big Rat]

Not really, between these two months, September and October, AMCU signed a deal with Sibanye at Rustenburg and Marikana, Transnet also concluded a deal with unions, the private security unions also concluded a deal, NUMSA signed a deal in the automotive sector.

Those are big unions yet they were able to reach an agreement with employers, without any violence, and not like the increases they got are going to collapse the respective employers.

Thanks. I am surprised to be honest.