OceanGate Expeditions boss's position on safety in the spotlight

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OceanGate Expeditions boss's position on safety in the spotlight

Stockton Rush, founder of the company that owns the missing submersible craft that was on its way to view the Titanic wreckage, has said safety is “pure waste.”

“I mean if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed, don’t get in your car, don’t do anything,” Rush said in a 2022 podcast with CBS reporter David Pogue.

[Bloomberg]
 
Hanno Labuschagne said:
OceanGate Expeditions boss's position on safety in the spotlight

Stockton Rush, founder of the company that owns the missing submersible craft that was on its way to view the Titanic wreckage, has said safety is “pure waste.”

“I mean if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed, don’t get in your car, don’t do anything,” Rush said in a 2022 podcast with CBS reporter David Pogue.

[Bloomberg]
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He cared nothing about safety. This is just media stunts and publicity, nothing else.

A person who did not want to employ a 50 year old white male who had experience with the military in sub-marines because they do not have a personality with clients, just shows how much he cared about safety and security. It was all about the money. His business, its equipment and this incident is all the proof needed.
 
Hanno Labuschagne said:
OceanGate Expeditions boss's position on safety in the spotlight

Stockton Rush, founder of the company that owns the missing submersible craft that was on its way to view the Titanic wreckage, has said safety is “pure waste.”

“I mean if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed, don’t get in your car, don’t do anything,” Rush said in a 2022 podcast with CBS reporter David Pogue.

[Bloomberg]
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It is a cool project for himself but he should have known better and not taken passengers with him
 
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rvZA said:
He cared nothing about safety. This is just media stunts and publicity, nothing else.

A person who did not want to employ a 50 year old white male who had experience with the military in sub-marines because they do not have a personality with clients, just shows how much he cared about safety and security. It was all about the money. His business, its equipment and this incident is all the proof needed.
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He didn’t say they lacked personality with clients, he said they weren’t “inspiring”.

My interpretation of that, is that they would slow things down and increase cost because they would raise inconvenient problems like safety margins, stress testing and making sure specs are met etc.
 
This is the bleeding edge in deep ocean exploration, it comes with extremely high risk.
 
In a sense he's not wrong.

You can't ever be 100% safe. You can reduce risk but the further you go, the more your costs go up. If going from 90% to 99% costs X, then going to 99.9% safe is going to cost 10X or more.

There reaches a point that you have to decide what level of risk you're prepared to accept.
 
Polymathic said:
This is the bleeding edge in deep ocean exploration, it comes with extremely high risk.
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Not sure what that means in this context. Bleeding edge usually implies something at the edge of current tech and ability. From various news sources nothing about that sub was bleeding edge. They were taking big chances with something (apparently) ill-equipped to the task.
 
Blackhand said:
He didn’t say they lacked personality with clients, he said they weren’t “inspiring”.

My interpretation of that, is that they would slow things down and increase cost because they would raise inconvenient problems like safety margins, stress testing and making sure specs are met etc.
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Either way, things ended up accordingly. No losses here.
 
saor said:
Not sure what that means in this context. Bleeding edge usually implies something at the edge of current tech and ability. From various news sources nothing about that sub was bleeding edge. They were taking big chances with something (apparently) ill-equipped to the task.
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That spun wrap hull was basically 3d printed, so that could be considered bleeding edge submersible manufacturing. It just went on to show how not to make a submersible hull.
 
saor said:
Not sure what that means in this context. Bleeding edge usually implies something at the edge of current tech and ability. From various news sources nothing about that sub was bleeding edge. They were taking big chances with something (apparently) ill-equipped to the task.
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The bleeding edge of deep ocean exploration, I believe more people have gone up to space than visited the ocean floor.
 
Polymathic said:
The bleeding edge of deep ocean exploration, I believe more people have gone up to space than visited the ocean floor.
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Look at this video. It's not bleeding edge anymore, there's no excuse for what happened.
 
Moosedrool said:
He wasn't 100% wrong though.

If you don't want to take any risk stay at home and cover the corners with marshmallows.
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Hey you forgot the obvious chocking hazard. No marshmallows for you.
 
CPTBoy said:
Look at this video. It's not bleeding edge anymore, there's no excuse for what happened.
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Only like 250 people have viewed the titanic in the 38 years, it's still the bleeding edge of deep ocean exploration. Shyte like this is bound to happen.
 
It's fcking stupid is what it is.

Send unmanned craft down first packed with sensors and use that to learn how to build something that can take people down safely.

Nothing that sub was doing required a person to be onboard.
 
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