Official 2011 Rugby World Cup Thread

Sm00thSm0k3

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I don't think we can blame Steyn for 1 and 2 because he is playing to a prescribe game plan. As for 3 I do think the ref should have given Samoa a few early yellow cards to make them realize that he was not going to put up with foul play but instead he molly coddled them because they're the media minnow darlings.

Well then whoever made the final call on the game plan needs to have his head read. Towards the end of the 1st half it was becoming quite clear that the whole up-and-unders/kick and chase thing wasn't working yet in the 2nd half we continued with the exact same thing and it would've cost us the game if it wasn't for our defence.


Indeed. This is a HUGE blow!! Couldn't have come at a worse time. :crying:
 
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From the New Zealand Herald (www.nzherald.co.nz). Kiwi point of view on our boys. They reckon we might win the world cup again:

The great Springbok Houdini act, so successful in the last Rugby World Cup, continued in Albany last night.

The Samoans were courageous, if at times a little ill disciplined, but they simply could not breach a superb defensive line enough to win.

The high-flying All Blacks may be the team to beat, but they will be aware that they probably will have to run through a green and gold brick wall in the semi finals to do so.

The Springboks owned the first half last night and when they ran off the field 13-0 up at the break, they looked poised to post a big score and make a statement about their intent to win the cup.

Well, they did not make that multi-try statement, but they did show one thing - they have one of the best, if not the best, defensive system in the tournament. It stretches, but it does not often break. One hundred and fifty two tackles proved that, allowing the Boks to grind out a 13-5 win.

It is a strange defensive pattern, but it is so well organised that it can hold up under the most intense pressure. The key to it is that the Springboks, particularly the backs, talk to each other all the time and they know where their mates are. They also trust a player to mark his man and they trust the backup system to stifle any attack when the line is breached.

The Samoans were making breaks fairly regularly, but the second line of defence, normally two or three Bok players, almost always got them. Last night the Bok team soaked up a lot of pressure. It is not a pretty style of rugby, but don't bet against them being there at the end. They do just enough to win games. Samoa had a chance to win, but they couldn't. Don't think that on this evidence, the Springboks are not a team to fear. They will raise their game for Australia and potentially New Zealand.

In a niggly game, refereed to shreds by the excitable Nigel Owens, they allowed Samoa to play most of the rugby.

Samoa were very good and if they are given more test matches outside of World Cups, they could become one of the top teams in world rugby. They have developed a more structured game, but they have not lost that flair and exciting running. Unfortunately, they have also not lost their tendency to play the man and not the ball. Television did not pick up a number of off-the-ball incidents, but there were Samoan players doing funny things all over the paddock.

And although a red card for Paul Williams' slap of Heinrich Brussow seemed a bit harsh, the Samoans can count themselves lucky they did not get a few more yellows. The Springbok team, while no angels (step up John Smit) are not the thugs they were a few years ago. This is a very disciplined side. They are ultra-aggressive, but they focus on the ball.

Unfortunately for their fans, they do not use that ball very much. When they do, Pietersen, Patrick Lambie and Bryan Habana look good.

Instead, they opt for the conservative approach and sometimes that is not that enjoyable to watch.

As one Bok-jersey wearing South African remarked to anyone who would listen after the match: "I travelled half way around the world to see the Springboks play s*** rugby."

Proponents of the running game may shudder, but in a tournament where the stakes are high, it may just be the rugby required to be crowned World Champions.
 
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Auckland -The Samoan player who compared the World Cup to "slavery" was at the centre of another row on Saturday when he accused a referee of being racist and biased in an expletive-filled Twitter rant.

Centre Eliota Sapolu Fuimaono took to the micro-messaging site with an angry tirade against Welsh referee Nigel Owens and the International Rugby Board (IRB) after Samoa's 13-5 loss to South Africa, which ended their quarter-final hopes.

Owens' Facebook page was also defaced by irate and offensive messages among more than 300 comments posted by members of the public after the game.

Sapolu Fuimaono, who mentioned that he was drinking and appeared to announce his international retirement, claimed Samoa was the victim of a conspiracy and directed fire at Owens after several other contributors criticised the referee.

"I can understand the hate!! Haha good luck u racist biased prick," tweeted the 30-year-old Sapolu Fuimaono, who plays for English club Gloucester.

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/RugbyWorldCup2011/Samoan-blasts-racist-ref-20111001
 

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I've been hard on the Islander teams for being negative, destructive players but Tonga have just shown the world what the Islander teams are capable of if they forget the off the ball stuff and just concentrate on playing hard uncompromising rugby.

Awesome stuff.
 

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Geez like! Well done to Tonga for beating France, they outplayed them. Don't know what the French were doing, they had the better line-outs and scrum but decided to make the same mistake we did against Samoa and try kick and chase and run the ball. Unfortunately for them they don't have the same defensive strength the Boks do.

P.S. Thanks for messing up my SuperBru France! :p
 

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Damn it!!!! I just stumbled across a result from this mornings game!!!!!!!! Haven't watched the game but this has spoiled it!!!!
 

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Geez like! Well done to Tonga for beating France, they outplayed them. Don't know what the French were doing, they had the better line-outs and scrum but decided to make the same mistake we did against Samoa and try kick and chase and run the ball. Unfortunately for them they don't have the same defensive strength the Boks do.

P.S. Thanks for messing up my SuperBru France! :p
DUDE??!!!!
 

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I've been hard on the Islander teams for being negative, destructive players but Tonga have just shown the world what the Islander teams are capable of if they forget the off the ball stuff and just concentrate on playing hard uncompromising rugby.

Awesome stuff.
DUDE??!!!!
 

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Great win for Tonga. France...well, one can only shake your head. Zero points in our SB group for this one. :)

Now for Eng/Scotland... picked Eng with 8.
 

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Hahahaha. No one even mentioning the more important game (in terms of Springbok future in the World Cup) which had the Aussies.

Woke up at 4am to watch it. The first half went according to script. The Russians were in awe and nowhere in the game. Half time was 47-5. The 2nd half was the complete opposite. The Aussies won the 2nd half 21-17...with a last minute try in there. Drew Mitchell is out of the tournament, looks like he's tore a hammy. The Russians played aggressively and showed how the Aussies don't like to be muscled up front. Quade Cooper has no plan B for when his team is on the back foot.

I reckon we can do well against them.
 

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Am ****in angry at Tonga. They could easily have scored 5tries to take them through to the Q/F's.

French rugby like their soccer counterparts have a sense of entitlement and arrogance ... They can be brilliant and also really pathetic at times. France should be on their way home... Not sure how the fark they justify their IRB ranking of 4 prior to the WC...


Good show Tonga... Maybe the likes of Fiji,Tonga and Samoa need to play the big guns more often and will become a major force if given more a chance at international level. The tri-nations should be expanded quite frankly...it will be for the good of the game...include Argentina and the 6Nations can go fsck themselves !!!!
 
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