Official Arsenal FC Supporters Thread II

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Mach III

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The game was won on fine margins. It is their home stadium though, and that little bit of luck is destined to work for the home team.

Big differences were how Ivanovic handled Sanchez, compared to Chambers on Hazard. Chambers gave him space where Ivanovic was all over him.

There’s a stupid clip on the net of Ozil dribbling the ball into Fabregas. That’s so one-sided. Can someone upload a clilp of Ozil flying passed Fabregas, cause that happened a couple of times.

The commentary told a story of their own. I have no idea how that one prick is allowed on the air. I mean in the beginning it was tentative. Chelsea winning the ball, Arsenal defending, going forward, losing the ball, Chelsea going forward losing the ball. The teams were squaring off. Then the ****en prick commentator is slating Arsenal’s attack and praising Chelsea’s defense; whereas the exact same thing could be said the other way around.

Then how he was rubbing himself off in the commentary box to Eden Hazard. He knows where the ball is, he looked the other side to trick the keeper. ****ing well done, but simple. If Scezney jumped the other way they would have bashed him saying how he didn’t take it seriously. The commentator was so excited in a fapping frenzy, “only a few players in the world are capable of pulling that off.”, “us mere mortals”. Omg.

Then the 2nd half began, and he went through his crib notes again, saying the exact same **** he spoke about in the first half, and then mentioned Hazards penalty again whilst clearly ejaculating at the same time.

I can’t help but think if it were the other way around in so many situations, he would’ve had his dick in hand in seconds.
Swap Ozil around for Fabregas for the hand ball: Atrocious, he’s been moping around the pitch the whole day, dilly dallying and he can’t keep his hands to his side. What has happened to this player. Yellow Card and penalty Chelsea.

If it were Hazard who was in Wilshere’s position when he took that awful first touch: “Hazard scoffed his chance to make it two nil. Chelsea have been completely dominating this Arsenal team.”

At one point the freak started speaking about Jose Mourinho’s press conference AFTER the game, and then commenting on what he thinks Mourinho is going to say. Uh, *******. There is a match going on. Comment on the match. The ****ing match!

They must either bring in some campaign for fair unbiased reporting of the matches, or give an option to turn off the commentary. Considering watching the game in a foreign language.

There are positives to take.

Wenger actually had a game plan.

They are one of the most in form teams in the world at the moment. I think apart from Real Madrid with their Cristiano Ronaldo magic. I don’t see many scoring against Chelsea when they sit back. It is a marvel actually how astute they are at the back.

Their game plan is sit back, wait for the mistake, and score.

Last season Atletico Madrid tore **** to pieces. Their main threat though, their game winner. The unstoppable Diego Costa. Chelsea were on to him after he put them to the sword in the UCL.

They are really very good, but what would have happened if we take out Ivanovic out of the equation, who else do they have to put Sanchez to sleep. We were without our France international RB. As good as Chambers is. Debuchy is solid gold back there. Strong in the headers too. He was a big miss.

Oh, what if we take Fabregas out of the mix for them? We were without Ramsey too.

All the planets in the cosmos were aligned for Chelsea to win.

I think we played quite well; and come the end of the international break, we have plenty of 3 points up for grabs, and I think we are going to build some great form!

Sure it’s easy after the game to think back to Ozil dribbling the ball out of play; but we had absolutely **** all left to play for from that point. That isn’t a reason to get upset about. He had some awesome moments of play out there, and had things gone our way, things could’ve been different.

We’ll bounce back, COYG!!
 

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Koscielny had a brain fart and the second goal was just Cesc's brilliance. Even after we went a goal down I still thought that we could equalise. It was only after the second goal that I thought well that's that then.

You had zero shots on target for a reason- because you guys threatened exceedingly little.
 

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It wasn't a clumsy tackle it was reckless and was deserving of a red card. He went clear over the ball and into the shins of Sanchez. Leg breaking tackle right there.

Welbecks tackle was also deserving of a red card - two footed and studs up.

I don't understand wenger though he claims to not have gone for Fabregas again because we have ozil but then he plays ozil on the wing instead of the playmaker in the centre of park. Exactly where he should be playing.

Wenger needs to wisen up and stop trying to convert expansive playmakers who play in the centre of the park to wingers. He just needs to go out and buy proper wingers.

Actually, I agree with that. Clumsy was the wrong word used- reckless is far better. But Welbeck's was much worse IMO- two-footed, over the ball, launching into the lunge. Quite horrible (not that Cahill's was great).
 

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^Wellbeck's was bad. That I agree with.

You had zero shots on target for a reason- because you guys threatened exceedingly little.

Compared to your three - one of which was a penalty? I'd say you guys created just as little as us the only difference being your finishing was better than ours which is evidenced by the total shots vs. shots on target stats.
 
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Mach III- it may appear fine margins to those of the Wenger perspective, but that is more down to Chelsea's midfielders having less space than usual to operate in, and Arsenal's defence doing a sterling job in keeping Costa quite for 80 mins. But at the same time- Arsenal played as if losing by one or two goals was all they could achieve.

Oh, and I don't think it would have made much difference if Debuchy played over Chambers- lest we forget the lesson Hazard provided at St. James Park with his hat trick last season.
 

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I wonder if starting the Ox would have made a difference? I really like that kid.
 

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Compared to your three - one of which was a penalty? I'd say you guys created just as little as us the only difference being your finishing was better than ours which is evidenced by the total shots vs. shots on target stats.

I didn't say created, I said threatened. Big difference :)

On paper, it looks all good and well that Arsenal were in the game- but to most people that watched it, they never looked at any stage as if they would get anything from the game. Chelsea were the more threatening team, but were restricted by a very good defence.
 

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Fair point but I guess it's Mach III and me then since he too believes the game was won on fine margins.

:D

I just think that Maureen played his usual game of closing up shop and parked the bus after the first goal.
 

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Fair point but I guess it's Mach III and me then since he too believes the game was won on fine margins.

:D

I just think that Maureen played his usual game of closing up shop and parked the bus after the first goal.

Na, not that early- he did that around 60-odd minutes. Up until that point, we actually shaded possession a little bit (I know that we had more possession in the first half as well).
 

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AW has been cleared of any wrong-doing in the rumble with Maureen. Get in, Le Boss!

Ivanovic's tackle could've been career-ending if Sanchez hadn't taken evasive action. A straight red. Welbeck's two-feet-off-the-ground-studs-up lunge could've had the same effect, but from what I could see, Cheques took evasive action, too, and there wasn't even any contact. It was a tackle that Welbeck shouldn't even have gone in for that far up the pitch. Also a straight red. Btw, wtf is up with JT calling for someone to get sent off every 5mins? At one point it looked like Jack wanted to klap him because he just wouldn't shut up.

For all the "fine margins" and whatnot, we simply didn't do enough to even threaten grabbing an equaliser when it was still 1-0. At 2-0, it looked like we said "ah **** it, let's go get a pint". It's the exact same thing that happened 4 times last year when we conceded quick goals, and just stopped playing. Luckily for us, this only happened at the 80th minute, not he 15th.

And about Özil? What AW said the other day made a bit of sense. We're overstocked on number 10's. So in order to accommodate them all, some of them are going to have to play out of position. In that case, you have to play the best player at the worst of those positions, simply because the "lesser" players won't be able to cope there. But, I also call bull**** in a way, because we all saw that playing Özil in his actual role, with the other 10's filling in the other spots, against Villa is actually quite effective. Would it have worked against Chelsea? Look, I don't want to comment on speculation. We had a little bit two-goals-down niggle. (#wengerknowbest
 

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AW has been cleared of any wrong-doing in the rumble with Maureen. Get in, Le Boss!

Ivanovic's tackle could've been career-ending if Sanchez hadn't taken evasive action. A straight red. Welbeck's two-feet-off-the-ground-studs-up lunge could've had the same effect, but from what I could see, Cheques took evasive action, too, and there wasn't even any contact. It was a tackle that Welbeck shouldn't even have gone in for that far up the pitch. Also a straight red. Btw, wtf is up with JT calling for someone to get sent off every 5mins? At one point it looked like Jack wanted to klap him because he just wouldn't shut up.

For all the "fine margins" and whatnot, we simply didn't do enough to even threaten grabbing an equaliser when it was still 1-0. At 2-0, it looked like we said "ah **** it, let's go get a pint". It's the exact same thing that happened 4 times last year when we conceded quick goals, and just stopped playing. Luckily for us, this only happened at the 80th minute, not he 15th.

And about Özil? What AW said the other day made a bit of sense. We're overstocked on number 10's. So in order to accommodate them all, some of them are going to have to play out of position. In that case, you have to play the best player at the worst of those positions, simply because the "lesser" players won't be able to cope there. But, I also call bull**** in a way, because we all saw that playing Özil in his actual role, with the other 10's filling in the other spots, against Villa is actually quite effective. Would it have worked against Chelsea? Look, I don't want to comment on speculation. We had a little bit two-goals-down niggle. (#wengerknowbest

While the game didn't have many chances, Arsenal's approached seemed to be "as long as we show up and not get thrashed, it's enough".

Özil is the best number 10 in the league. Why he is played on the wings is a mystery. He would have offered the support to Welbeck and Sanchez that they clearly needed.
 

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While the game didn't have many chances, Arsenal's approached seemed to be "as long as we show up and not get thrashed, it's enough".

Özil is the best number 10 in the league. Why he is played on the wings is a mystery. He would have offered the support to Welbeck and Sanchez that they clearly needed.

I think Arsenal just didn't have much creativity up front in order to create decent chances. I agree with you on Ozil. Why play him on the wing its ludicrous. I would rather have had OX on the wing and cazorla and Ozil in the centre. Wilshere should be kept on the bench for a while until he learns how to pass a ball again. Ozil then would have three fast paced players that he could try play into. We needed more direct play from our players instead of the tippy tappy play. Chelsea were closing down like beasts which stopped us being able to pass around the team. We actually needed players to turn and run at the defense and then hopefully terry would have done a Kolscielny and tripped someone in the box :D
 

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I think Arsenal just didn't have much creativity up front in order to create decent chances. I agree with you on Ozil. Why play him on the wing its ludicrous. I would rather have had OX on the wing and cazorla and Ozil in the centre. Wilshere should be kept on the bench for a while until he learns how to pass a ball again. Ozil then would have three fast paced players that he could try play into. We needed more direct play from our players instead of the tippy tappy play. Chelsea were closing down like beasts which stopped us being able to pass around the team. We actually needed players to turn and run at the defense and then hopefully terry would have done a Kolscielny and tripped someone in the box :D

Arsenal look so much better when they play quick, direct football, with Özil as the architect. I guess that perhaps Wenger sees the tippy-tappy route as easier because it reduces the requirement to be stronger defensively as a team.

I read a comment on another site yesterday, which I think it rather correct- that Wenger only plans strategies (and employs personnel off of those plans) for when Arsenal have the ball, but nothing for when they are off the ball. Sunday though, was him discarding his usual philosophies and actually doing that.
 

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Well, I guess our little bit where to play Özil problem has been taken care of. I don't think we've ever had this many first teamers out at once before. What are we on now? 5? 6? 7?! Like someone posted somewhere "at least we signed Fabregas and Khedira. Oh wait..."
 

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I'm not going to overlook the possibility that the Emirates was in fact built on an ancient Saxon burial ground. There literally is NO logical explanation for the immense number of injuries we've had. Something like 889 in the last few years?
 
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