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Sign up with GoogleOfficial Arsenal FC Supporters Thread II
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The Voice
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I was almost spot on with my 0-1/7mins prediction
Next time give it before the match and ill only watch the last 7 min.
They definitely weren't as uninterested as the Real Madrid players in the second half against Liverpool.
Maverick Jester
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For all the doom and gloom- Arsenal got a result when it looked lost. That is commendable.
I found it disappointing that many of the players were celebrating afterwards, instead of talking Sanchez' lead and walking off shaking his head. I think that a few Arsenal players celebrate mediocrity all too easily. Not fair on you fans.
I found it disappointing that many of the players were celebrating afterwards, instead of talking Sanchez' lead and walking off shaking his head. I think that a few Arsenal players celebrate mediocrity all too easily. Not fair on you fans.
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man last night was just horrible, there really isnt enough fluidity in this 4141 system and Wenger needs to realise that... go back to 4231 its PAINFUL to watch Arsenal and I didnt even really want to celebrate the win yesterday it was that bad.
Stickfigure
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Well they do celebrate 4th place like a trophy.
That stems from the manager's excuses. He's created a culture of Euro-mediocrity.
Maverick Jester
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FTFY.
No, you didn't fix it. Euro-mediocrity is much better for what Arsene did. Arsenal are not a mediocre team, but they so long as they are in Europe, they feel no need to do more. If they were totally mediocre, they'd be up north and called Liverpool.
No need to bring in LFC for your mediocre team.
You guys participate every year in competitions to make up the numbers
Maverick Jester
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I don't agree. Settling for fourth place every year, and merely making up the numbers in the cup competitions is mediocrity in my book. Liverpool are just poor.
The Voice
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Honestly, I think the CL seeding changes will do us a favour in the future (Arsenal will no longer be a top seeded team). There's also the changes to whom actually qualifies (champions and second place iirc). The CL is more of a burden than a blessing for us. Yes, I'm probably one of the few Gooners to spew this type of blasphemy, but I can't logically see it any other way. AW's reign can be neatly divided into two parts: Highbury, where we won trophies, and had The Invincibles, and The Emirates, where we sold off all our best players, brought no-one in, and won nothing (the past two seasons excluded, of course). Throughout his reign, only ONE team made the CL final (ironically not even The Invincibles did it). And I think that's our peak as far as Europe goes. No Arsenal team in the foreseeable future will even get close to that. And if you're not walking onto the pitch with 100% determination to win, not just that game, but the entire competition, you don't deserve to be there 17 years in a row.
I was really upbeat for this season (EPL) when we started signing quality players in the summer (Sanchez, Debuchy). But that soon faded when we started playing. Out of the 11 on the pitch currently, we literally only have one winner, in Sanchez. The rest just don't give a **** and seem content with what they're doing, and where they are. That dawned on me when everyone was going nuts on the field after the Anderlecht game and Sanchez just walked off shaking his head. That's the difference between the Highbury team and The Emirates team: 11 winners on the field, versus 1. Until that changes, we'll be "same old Arsenal", struggling to get through to the last 16, and battling for 4th, because from the players all the way up to the board members are content with that, season in, season out.
Our problem is not our personnel - it's our attitude. We need to THINK we're winners, before we can become winners. Of course, I'm just one in a million or more Gooners saying this, so it'll probably never happen.
You guys, as much as it hurts, were spot on with your mediocrity comments.
I was really upbeat for this season (EPL) when we started signing quality players in the summer (Sanchez, Debuchy). But that soon faded when we started playing. Out of the 11 on the pitch currently, we literally only have one winner, in Sanchez. The rest just don't give a **** and seem content with what they're doing, and where they are. That dawned on me when everyone was going nuts on the field after the Anderlecht game and Sanchez just walked off shaking his head. That's the difference between the Highbury team and The Emirates team: 11 winners on the field, versus 1. Until that changes, we'll be "same old Arsenal", struggling to get through to the last 16, and battling for 4th, because from the players all the way up to the board members are content with that, season in, season out.
Our problem is not our personnel - it's our attitude. We need to THINK we're winners, before we can become winners. Of course, I'm just one in a million or more Gooners saying this, so it'll probably never happen.
You guys, as much as it hurts, were spot on with your mediocrity comments.
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