Official British & Irish Lions Tour Thread

[DarrylH]

then why is the d00s never negative towards the opposition?

let Joel and John Robbie (who calls a spade a spade) commentate and you'll see who is being biased....Joel should bugger off to taiwan to commentate there.

I'd rather listen to the Xhosa commentary that his bullocks that he mumbles. DSTV should fire the w@nker.

 

[sand_man]

then why is the d00s never negative towards the opposition?

let Joel and John Robbie (who calls a spade a spade) commentate and you'll see who is being biased....Joel should bugger off to taiwan to commentate there.

I'd rather listen to the Xhosa commentary that his bullocks that he mumbles. DSTV should fire the w@nker.

mmm... disagree.. I find his perspective and insight on the game quite intriguing. He is also very articulate and well spoken and as far as the game of rugby goes very well traveled...

 

[JK8]

So whats up with the 60% English supporters? And in PTA!

 

[sand_man]

So whats up with the 60% English supporters? And in PTA!

Ticket prices on average R1140 per ticket. Who else other than pound earning pommies can afford that?!!! Personally I think it's a disgrace

 

[Morgoth]

We can't afford the money ;/ and besides its the boks not the bulls

 

[APoc184]

Just woke up now after a great game and even better party.

It was a classic Test match. It had everything from yellow cards to scuffles to missed kicks and brilliant tries.

We were seated directly behind Schalk Burger's family and I can say with all honesty that his dad was gutted with that first minute yellow. You could see he was very disappointed.

Last week the subs almost lost it for us, yesterday they won the series for us.

Pdivvy needs to realize that each game should be measured on its own merits.
Last week he made a mistake to bring the subs on too early and because of that he was reluctant to bring them on this time. A move that almost cost us the game.
There is no shame in subbing a player that is not performing. And he needed to do that early in the second half. That way it would not have been necessary for a late minute penalty to win us the game. (although it was nice and very dramatic).

Chanting of MORNE, MORNE, MORNE started early in the second-half and the crowd erupted into a frenzy when he eventually ran onto the field.

We should also send O'Driscoll a massive case of beer for that shoulder charge that sent Rossouw to the hospital for a brain scan.
It was a blessing in disguise as he was carted of and Brussouw appeared in jersey #20.
It was also this same jersey #20 that emerged with the ball 3 or 4 times from the rucks. He also slowed down all the Lions' ball. Something that should have happened from the first second of the match.
Brussouw got us into those point scoring positions. Jaque, Morne and Habana finished it off. Quick thinking by Brussouw to pass the ball early on to Jaque. He knew he didn't have enough pace to get past the defenders and gave it to the speedster on his right.

The Lions supporters were also very gracious in defeat and we partied with them into the early hours of the morning. Although very disappointed they all praised the Boks for a brilliant comeback.

WELL DONE BOKKE!!!!!

 

[LancelotSA]

then why is the d00s never negative towards the opposition?

let Joel and John Robbie (who calls a spade a spade) commentate and you'll see who is being biased....Joel should bugger off to taiwan to commentate there.

I'd rather listen to the Xhosa commentary that his bullocks that he mumbles. DSTV should fire the w@nker.

You seem to be alone on this one......




Have you guys been reading some of the cr@p the Lions players and British media have been spewing out? Damn, they are a bunch if whingers. And they usually have the gall of calling us whingers.

Read this and laugh (it's all you can do) : http://www.keo.co.za/2009/06/27/phillips-launches-scathing-attack-on-ref-boks/

‘It was a clear red card. It was simple,’ he told keo.co.za. ‘They should have played with 14 men for 79 minutes, and that would have given us a massive advantage.

‘I couldn’t believe it. There was some dodgy refereeing throughout the Test, but that was the worst of it. You can’t do things like that, and it [Burger not being red carded] cost us the game.’

So Phillips is pretty much admitting that the only way the Lion s would have gained an advantage is by only playing 14 Springboks! Does not say much for their team does it?

And as for it costing them the game, was it not during the 10 minutes that Burger was off that they scored 10 of their points?

‘I’m sure he’ll be banned, but I really don’t give a sh_t about that now. I’m just gutted to have lost a Test series with the Lions,’ he said. ‘They’ve got their gameplan and we’ve got ours, and if they want to do dirty sh_t that’s their prerogative.’

And the 8th man jumped on the bandwagon. Whinge whinge whinge... moan moan moan.... poor little them. Now the game I watched had Sheridan perpetrating a lot of that "dirty sh_t" once he came on! He seemed to have it in for Bakkies. And even the supposedly clean Brian O'Driscoll came off badly from one of his no arm challengers. Sad that a team has to resort to this sort of cr@p after a great game....

At least it adds some nice needle to the last test. Not that the Lions ***** cats are going to have many players left to play in that after coming off second best in their attempt to match the Boks physically!


The only issue I do have with the test is not the actual eye gouging incident. It happened and the judiciary will run it's course and have it's say. The problem is that coach of ours', who I have defended until now I'll have people know, response to the incident. In the press interview he made it a non issue and said that these things happen and it was a non incident, which pretty much led people to believe he had no problem with eye gouging on a rugby field. He would have been so much better off not commenting and saying the law must run it's course. It seems he may well get into trouble with the IRB over that....

He is already in trouble, and needing to answer to SARU, about the comments he made regarding the inclusion of Ricky Januarie. For those who never heard his pearls of wisdom, this was it :

“I am not concerned about Ricky’s form. Look, if you go to a black mechanic and he doesn’t fix your car, you don’t go back. If you go to a white mechanic and he doesn’t fix your car, you go back and make sure he fixes the problem. What I am saying is give Ricky a chance.”

Now only he will know what the hell he meant but it cannot be questioned that it was obviously a rather racist comment he made... something previous, highly successful, coaches have lost their jobs as a result of. So let's hold thumbs for the outcome of the hearing with SARU....

 

[LancelotSA]

So whats up with the 60% English supporters? And in PTA!

This was discussed earlier. And to be pedantic it was more like 50% from what I have read Remember, as pointed out by Bob Skinstad too, most of the Springbok supporters were on the main stand where the cameras are situated.

The Lions fans tickets tend to be on the opposite side. But yeah as pointed out by others the price played a part. SARU apparently did pricing by looking at what was affordable to British people.

I suppose one good thing it to look at that crowd and think how much money it is bringing into the country! But it does nullify the whole "home ground advantage" thing.

 

[APoc184]

Schalk may be looking at a 12 week or more ban after Sergio Parisse from Italy got suspended for 8 weeks for the exact same offense of eye gouging against Australia.
Parisse could have been suspended for 12 weeks, but because he has never even received as much as a yellow card in his previous 65 tests, he only received 8 weeks.
We all know this is not the case with Burger.

IMO. Good riddance.
You've played your 50th, won a WC, Tri-Nations and Lions series. Move over now. You were good when you were at your best. That passed long ago.

 

[killadoob]

Apoc i think your comment about sending a case of beer to o driscall is a bit harsh.

I also think it should have been a red card, then again the lions should not complain because they sent one of our players to the hospital and they never even got carded for it.

 

[sand_man]

Personally I think the sending off of players is Buiish1te and this is the reason why. How any self respecting professional rugby player can find any solace,dignity or sense of achievement in winning a test played against 14 is beyond me....

As for PDV comments about the Burger incident, good to hear him standing up for his players at the expense of his own already tardy reputation..

 

[LancelotSA]

IMO. Good riddance.
You've played your 50th, won a WC, Tri-Nations and Lions series. Move over now. You were good when you were at your best. That passed long ago.

I find this sort of attitude a bit sad really... the type of attitude that could well have resulted in both Os and Percy never returning to play test rugby if it was the view of those in power.

It is also sad as prior to the emergence of Brussouw not many people would have been saying this. I personally feel it would still be extremely valuable to have someone like Schalk sitting on the bench waiting to come on. Did you not see the amount of work he put in cleaning out the rucks and mauls? Unfortunately this is the hard graft that often goes unseen, not the glory boy stuff, but necessary none the less.

 

[killadoob]

Yea sandman i am not really a big fan of standing up for players when they do something dangerous like that. Sure late tackles maybe a huge fight yea stand up for them but gauging someone's eyes is on a different level if you ask me.

 

[sand_man]

I also think it should have been a red card.

Nah... Yellow was more than sufficient punishment.

 

[sand_man]

Yea sandman i am not really a big fan of standing up for players when they do something dangerous like that. Sure late tackles maybe a huge fight yea stand up for them but gauging someone's eyes is on a different level if you ask me.

Possibly, he wasn't hurt at all in the incident though. Are we sure from the 5 seconds of footage that what Burger intended was to gouge the guys eye out? mmm... not so sure any ref can make that call with any degree of certainty.

Is Burger that stupid? Probably is...

 

[LancelotSA]

As for PDV comments about the Burger incident, good to hear him standing up for his players at the expense of his own already tardy reputation..

Unfortunately in my eyes, and according to the press, it has only added to his tardy reputation! You cannot have a coach of a team saying he saw a player stick his fingers in the eyes of another player and then adding that he had no issue with it... yes, you can tell him in private in the change room that he has your support but not in front of a frenzied media!

 

[killadoob]

Well to me it did not look like he had no control, to me it looked like he did exactly what the ref's thought he had done.

Looked pretty blatant to me. As lance says supporting a player who does that in an interview and saying you have no problems with it is about as stupid as what burger did.

 

[sand_man]

Unfortunately in my eyes, and according to the press, it has only added to his tardy reputation! You cannot have a coach of a team saying he saw a player stick his fingers in the eyes of another player and then adding that he had no issue with it... yes, you can tell him in private in the change room that he has your support but not in front of a frenzied media!

Gees so Burger is guilty then? Not so sure from the 5 seconds of footage all these conclusions can be reached and before Burger's even had a chance to comment?

Coaches are forever defending the despicable actions of their players, I'm glad PDV's doing the same.

You ever heard an Ozzie coach lament Warne for his on and off field antics, you ever heard a Samoan coach lament Brian Lima for his head high coconut tackles? You ever heard a Pakistani coach scold Shaoib Aktar for substance abuse?

 

[killadoob]

No but i have never heard anyone of them saying that are fine with it.

Aktar's coach never came out and said i know he abused substances and i am fine with it. They never defended it, they just left it alone. Burger is guilty without a doubt and will be banned for sure, it is a matter of how long.

 

[APoc184]

I find this sort of attitude a bit sad really... the type of attitude that could well have resulted in both Os and Percy never returning to play test rugby if it was the view of those in power.

It is also sad as prior to the emergence of Brussouw not many people would have been saying this. I personally feel it would still be extremely valuable to have someone like Schalk sitting on the bench waiting to come on. Did you not see the amount of work he put in cleaning out the rucks and mauls? Unfortunately this is the hard graft that often goes unseen, not the glory boy stuff, but necessary none the less.

True but at the moment he is nothing more than a liability.
Let him go and prove his worth in the Currie Cup when he gets back from his suspension. Os and Percy also needed a different environment to come back to being their best.

What won the game for us yesterday?
Experience or young players(Steyn, Brussow) that are on form?