Official Chelsea Supporters Thread

[Helghast]

8 shots on target, 6 goals, clinical.

 

[smokey]

Bloody hell... that was just mind blowing. Stupid defending by Chelsea though - should not have conceded those two goals. Oh well, top of the league and havin' a laugh (early days yet, but might as well enjoy it )

 

[goofball]

Remy for 8.5 million pounds is a bargain. You can't really sign a forward who is happy to play second fiddle and is still decent for much less, nevermind on such short notice. I think Remy was signed in particular because he can play on the wing as well so we can let Mo Salah go to make our foreign player number alright.

Yeah. If I think of the cost it does make sense then.

 

[The Voice]

Remy signed on a four year deal.

 

[Helghast]

 

[Helghast]

Looks like Van Ginkel is off to Milan.

 

[The Voice]

How much are they paying him to spend the next four years on the bench?

 

[goofball]

How much are they paying him to spend the next four years on the bench?

Obviously enough to jump at the chance.

Cant wait to see him in action!

 

[Helghast]

Van Ginkel off on loan.

 

[smokey]

HE asked for 80k, but probably got less with the stipulation that if he scores x goals he will get a bonus. Still... even on 80k, it's better than the 150 odd we were paying Torress. Also, he'll see more than enough game time, since.. you know... you need to rotate your players once in a while.

 

[smokey]

Still amazed that the net transfer spend this time around is only around 9 million and we got Costa and Fabregas. Crazy.

 

[Maverick Jester]

That game... Holy crap. But to be honest, a more open defense is usually one of the aspects of counter-pressing.

Was like watching Dortmund vs Bayern- credit to Everton for playing the football that they did. Such a shame that the seem to now be defending like Martinez' Wigan.

Oh and Remy- hell yeah!

 

[thestaggy]

That game... Holy crap. But to be honest, a more open defense is usually one of the aspects of counter-pressing.

Was like watching Dortmund vs Bayern- credit to Everton for playing the football that they did. Such a shame that the seem to now be defending like Martinez' Wigan.

Oh and Remy- hell yeah!

I done gone told everyone that would listen last season that Martinez was reaping the rewards of a Moyes defence. . . He added a glossy finish to what was a very well-drilled and competent defensive unit.

The man can put a never-say-die team together that will throw the kitchen sink at you, but my jury is still out on his ability to build and maintain a defence.

Costa is looking legit. Chelsea may have finally hit the mark on a big-bucks striker.

 

[Maverick Jester]

I done gone told everyone that would listen last season that Martinez was reaping the rewards of a Moyes defence. . . He added a glossy finish to what was a very well-drilled and competent defensive unit.

The man can put a never-say-die team together that will throw the kitchen sink at you, but my jury is still out on his ability to build and maintain a defence.

Agreed with you then, agree with you now. 10 goals in 3 games is a very poor defensive record, especially given who they have played thus far.

Costa is looking legit. Chelsea may have finally hit the mark on a big-bucks striker.

In a way, it shows exactly why Torres failed- he was never suited for our system and we never built our team around him. Costa is thriving on exactly those merits.

 

[thestaggy]

Agreed with you then, agree with you now. 10 goals in 3 games is a very poor defensive record, especially given who they have played thus far.

It is alarming indeed. I see they've been linked with Ryan Shawcross, but they've no money left to meet Stoke's evaluation of the player.

In a way, it shows exactly why Torres failed- he was never suited for our system and we never built our team around him. Costa is thriving on exactly those merits.

Do you think Chelsea could've done more to accommodate him considering what they spent on him? I know he famously said he wants to do the same things he done at Atletico and Liverpool at Chelsea, but he can't. I presume he meant the system was not geared for him and more towards a Drogba-like forward that could hold the ball up and play with his back to the goal.

Costa is definitely a more robust player better suited to the ''Drogba roll''. I see some sections of the English press are already referring to him as a ''throwback'', the old-school English #9 that quite enjoyed the physical battle.

 

[Maverick Jester]

It is alarming indeed. I see they've been linked with Ryan Shawcross, but they've no money left to meet Stoke's evaluation of the player.

The players aren't the problem- Jagielka and Distin are a solid defensive partnership. It's the way they defend that's the issue (much like Liverpool, actually).

Do you think Chelsea could've done more to accommodate him considering what they spent on him? I know he famously said he wants to do the same things he done at Atletico and Liverpool at Chelsea, but he can't. I presume he meant the system was not geared for him and more towards a Drogba-like forward that could hold the ball up and play with his back to the goal.

Yes. We all saw the sort of system that he thrived in at Liverpool. We just needed a deep lying playmaker to make that happen, and could have brought in the better variants of the existing components (right winger in particular) in the next window. We invested 50mil in him, and at no point did the club build a team to play to his undeniable strengths. Instead, he was forced to change his game, sacrifice the way he played for the good of the team, and it has broken his confidence as a player.

As frustrating as he was to watch at times, I will never have a single bad word to say about Torres over his time with us- he was a square peg that was forced into a round hole. Sadly enough, the same was done to Ballack, who had the versatility to adapt.

Ironically- the Torres of 2009 would have thrived in the current Chelsea system. He was the archetypal number 9- quick, aggressive, and more powerful than his frame suggested. He was also a spectacular and consistent finisher, which is key to Costa's success at the moment.

Costa is definitely a more robust player better suited to the ''Drogba roll''. I see some sections of the English press are already referring to him as a ''throwback'', the old-school English #9 that quite enjoyed the physical battle.

Funny enough, they said similar things about Torres, and how his physical nature suits the league. He himself, said the same thing in one of his first interviews.

 

[thestaggy]

The players aren't the problem- Jagielka and Distin are a solid defensive partnership. It's the way they defend that's the issue (much like Liverpool, actually).

True. Distin is getting on, but not a terrible defender by any means.

Yes. We all saw the sort of system that he thrived in at Liverpool. We just needed a deep lying playmaker to make that happen, and could have brought in the better variants of the existing components (right winger in particular) in the next window. We invested 50mil in him, and at no point did the club build a team to play to his undeniable strengths. Instead, he was forced to change his game, sacrifice the way he played for the good of the team, and it has broken his confidence as a player.

As frustrating as he was to watch at times, I will never have a single bad word to say about Torres over his time with us- he was a square peg that was forced into a round hole. Sadly enough, the same was done to Ballack, who had the versatility to adapt.

Ironically- the Torres of 2009 would have thrived in the current Chelsea system. He was the archetypal number 9- quick, aggressive, and more powerful than his frame suggested. He was also a spectacular and consistent finisher, which is key to Costa's success at the moment.

Xabi Alonso. He needed a Xabi at Chelsea. Xabi could feed him precision passes.

And I agree, you can't really blame Torres for how his Chelsea stint went.

Funny enough, they said similar things about Torres, and how his physical nature suits the league. He himself, said the same thing in one of his first interviews.

Torres definitely isn't a lightweight, but to me he seemed more comfortable running at players and onto balls rather than being asked to hold the ball up and mix it with defenders. He definitely played deeper for Chelsea than he ever did at Atletico and Liverpool.

 

[RanzB]

Xabi Alonso. He needed a Xabi at Chelsea. Xabi could feed him precision passes.

And I agree, you can't really blame Torres for how his Chelsea stint went.

Gerrard was the assisting player for most of his goals iirc.

 

[Helghast]

Agreed with you then, agree with you now. 10 goals in 3 games is a very poor defensive record, especially given who they have played thus far.



In a way, it shows exactly why Torres failed- he was never suited for our system and we never built our team around him. Costa is thriving on exactly those merits.

Biggest nonsense I've heard! Maybe in the beginning the system wasn't for him but we did so much for Torres. We bought a fantastic creative player in Hazard and Mata. We bought Oscar as well and yet he still didn't perform. For 2 seasons he was our main striker with Ba hardly ever getting a shout and a player like Sturridge being forced to leave because of it. Tell me have you ever seen the runs Costa does Torres do? Fact of the matter is Torres was rubbish and it has nothing to do with our system. We literally built a team around him and he did fckall with it.

 

[Helghast]

I can't believe people are still making excuses for the useless Torres.