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[SnowWar]

Oh get a room

We have one thx! You want to give us an upgrade?

 

[Detka]

1. At Gdruid about moonlight. I do not think it is good on ranged characters because it procs when you collide with mobs. also Dex > AS any time will give you higher damage and you will hit harder.
2. With regards to AH. I cannot comment but i am happy with my mweb if that helps. xD

 

[AfricanTech]

1. At Gdruid about moonlight. I do not think it is good on ranged characters because it procs when you collide with mobs. also Dex > AS any time will give you higher damage and you will hit harder.
2. With regards to AH. I cannot comment but i am happy with my mweb if that helps. xD

Thanks - I do collide with mobs (use Vault with Fire Rune - the Danetta's add Rattling Roll to that so I benefit on multiple levels )

I found last night that when the mobs got hairy, I had to swap to the Ourouborous (currently equipped) for the extra toughness. (also swapped to the belt that procs 4 seconds of blindness)

Reason I am using the MW is that I suspect that sheet dps is not taking into account the bonus to arcane (main hand bow has arcane damage) - the Ouroboros has a 4% higher sheet dps but it feels like I kill faster with the MW equipped (might be my imagination )

Nice quick run with Copa, Arzy and VJB last night - boy, VJB certainly added to our dps when he joined.

Drops were regular - I was able to pass on a Nat's ring to VJB and picked up a Strongarm Bracer [needs Fire Damage rolled onto it] (shoutout to pixelninja) as well.

The Marauder Chest and Danetta's (and other assorted bits) were however not upgrades and got Souled

Eish, sometimes it's a real pain trying to roll specific affixes - trying to get ChC onto a helm has so far chewed up about 15 souls.

 

[Enzo Matrix]

Reason I am using the MW is that I suspect that sheet dps is not taking into account the bonus to arcane (main hand bow has arcane damage)

As i understand it any elemental damage on your weapon is not used with the +elemental damage that other items give you. So if your bow does 1200-1400 arcane damage and your shoulders give you +20% arcane it has no effect on your weapon's arcane damage. It would only increase arcane damage you get from your skills. Will try find the post i read it from.

 

[AfricanTech]

More fun indeed, We make a good team

Not to be underestimated - makes a substantial difference to the game

 

[AfricanTech]

As i understand it any elemental damage on your weapon is not used with the +elemental damage that other items give you. So if your bow does 1200-1400 arcane damage and your shoulders give you +20% arcane it has no effect on your weapon's arcane damage. It would only increase arcane damage you get from your skills. Will try find the post i read it from.

Then it truly is just my imagination /tinfoil hat on/

ah well, it looks cool

 

[Archer]

As i understand it any elemental damage on your weapon is not used with the +elemental damage that other items give you. So if your bow does 1200-1400 arcane damage and your shoulders give you +20% arcane it has no effect on your weapon's arcane damage. It would only increase arcane damage you get from your skills. Will try find the post i read it from.

Correct

 

[Detka]

MW has nice proc that hits for like 3-4 mil which is neat. That i why i have a follower pimped with Moonlight ward, TF, Proc shield and unity xD.
Still searching for 2 more pieces for Mara set. So sad no luck yet already got other 2 sets for DH completed in a mean time.

 

[AfricanTech]

MW has nice proc that hits for like 3-4 mil which is neat. That i why i have a follower pimped with Moonlight ward, TF, Proc shield and unity xD.
Still searching for 2 more pieces for Mara set. So sad no luck yet already got other 2 sets for DH completed in a mean time.

Which ones?

I'm searching for the Marauder Pants

 

[Detka]

I need pants/shoulders/gloves - any of those 2. I got helmet 4 times on the weekend xD
Already got my +2 sentry quiver, all gear is ready with +Physical damage so just waiting for stupid mara to drop.
Sad Days

 

[Enzo Matrix]

I need pants/shoulders/gloves - any of those 2. I got helmet 4 times on the weekend xD
Already got my +2 sentry quiver, all gear is ready with +Physical damage so just waiting for stupid mara to drop.
Sad Days

Oh that was you

 

[SoulTax]

Advice wanted:

Roll the AS for Dex or not?

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Use the spready that I made. There is a thread dedicated to it. Drop the AS for Dex and see what happens. Boost the CHD to 100 and see what happens.
See which gives you more dps and go with that. Personally I think it will be the extra CHD.

 

[Detka]

you do not need to use any spreadsheets. Dex is just better then Attack Speed. Especially for his Sentry build. ~700Dex > 7% AS any time even if paper dps lower.
Dex give you raw damage.

 

[Enzo Matrix]

you do not need to use any spreadsheets. Dex is just better then Attack Speed. Especially for his Sentry build. ~700Dex > 7% AS any time even if paper dps lower.
Dex give you raw damage.

You can back that up how? Sheet DPS isnt some random arbitrary number in this specific case. Blizzard has more insight on how it works than any of us so i would trust sheet dps for something as straight forward as this.

For a turret build i agree 100% with you. The increase in AS wont affect them, but increased dex will.

 

[SoulTax]

you do not need to use any spreadsheets. Dex is just better then Attack Speed. Especially for his Sentry build. ~700Dex > 7% AS any time even if paper dps lower.
Dex give you raw damage.

Ya, build specific questions are to be taken into account as well of course. I am not talking about just dex vs AS though, I am talking about which is better between 3 factors. AS turned into Dex or 23% more CHD. CHD gives you raw dmg too, so if raw dmg is definitely better, then it is a question of which is better overall. (-7% AS +750 Dex) VS +23% CHD. The spreadsheet can tell you that pretty simply. Then you use that info and combine it with your knowledge of your build and what it needs.

EDIT: FYI, the spreadsheet includes skill% and element% dmg multipliers, that the in game paper dps does not. It is a little bit more informative than the standard paper dps.

 

[OMB]

I'm really getting into this tweaking thing, it actually becomes quite easy once you decide on what you want to achieve with a build, initially I was only focussing on toughness and damage and whilst I got my crusader's toughness well over 7 bar it still felt at times like I was hitting elites with a toothpick (I think I had about 400k damage at that time). Now that I've focused on a lightning build and looking for gear and stroking Maryam nicely, I'm really chuffed with the way Adhemar is coming along, I'm now getting up to 4 bar hits with Blessed Hammer and Heaven's Fury is doing some decent damage as well

I'm not quite facerolling T1 yet (bosses still take some time to go down when running solo), but I can cruise through the packs and elites pretty easily now, T2 with a group is very manageable but I still need to check out T3 with some of my latest tweaks

 

[AfricanTech]

Use the spready that I made. There is a thread dedicated to it. Drop the AS for Dex and see what happens. Boost the CHD to 100 and see what happens.
See which gives you more dps and go with that. Personally I think it will be the extra CHD.

you do not need to use any spreadsheets. Dex is just better then Attack Speed. Especially for his Sentry build. ~700Dex > 7% AS any time even if paper dps lower.
Dex give you raw damage.

You can back that up how? Sheet DPS isnt some random arbitrary number in this specific case. Blizzard has more insight on how it works than any of us so i would trust sheet dps for something as straight forward as this.

For a turret build i agree 100% with you. The increase in AS wont affect them, but increased dex will.

Thanks for all the input.

Turrets' not my main build at the moment - will only move to that if I pick up a couple of specific items (Marauder Pants, Krider/High DPS socketed bow; Bombadier Quiver)

Gut tells me that more dex is better than AS - mebbe just roll dex onto it and then use it for when I run turrets

 

[Enzo Matrix]

Thanks for all the input.

Turrets' not my main build at the moment - will only move to that if I pick up a couple of specific items (Marauder Pants, Krider/High DPS socketed bow; Bombadier Quiver)

Gut tells me that more dex is better than AS - mebbe just roll dex onto it and then use it for when I run turrets

U cant go wrong with dex, never ever ever

 

[AfricanTech]

Ya, build specific questions are to be taken into account as well of course. I am not talking about just dex vs AS though, I am talking about which is better between 3 factors. AS turned into Dex or 23% more CHD. CHD gives you raw dmg too, so if raw dmg is definitely better, then it is a question of which is better overall. (-7% AS +750 Dex) VS +23% CHD. The spreadsheet can tell you that pretty simply. Then you use that info and combine it with your knowledge of your build and what it needs.

EDIT: FYI, the spreadsheet includes skill% and element% dmg multipliers, that the in game paper dps does not. It is a little bit more informative than the standard paper dps.

It's expensive to roll though - I've been trying to roll the 77% higher on the Ouroboros - 10 rather expensive rolls later and it's still on 77%

 

[Enzo Matrix]

It's expensive to roll though - I've been trying to roll the 77% higher on the Ouroboros - 10 rather expensive rolls later and it's still on 77%

And the gems needed is insane